
{"id":100655,"date":"2020-02-20T08:30:02","date_gmt":"2020-02-20T07:30:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/det-er-okay-at-lukke-ned-for-holdninger-der-undertrykker-andre\/"},"modified":"2020-02-19T15:51:20","modified_gmt":"2020-02-19T14:51:20","slug":"its-completely-okay-to-suppress-oppressive-views","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/its-completely-okay-to-suppress-oppressive-views\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00bbIt\u2019s completely okay to suppress oppressive views\u00ab"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some representatives of the centre-right in Denmark harbour views that are so oppressive and discriminating that they should be neither tolerated nor debated, according to two students at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/its-not-easy-expressing-your-centre-right-views-at-a-left-wing-faculty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">It&#8217;s not easy expressing your centre-right views at a left-wing faculty<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz and Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev study anthropology at the Faculty of Social Sciences and Forest and Natural and Cultural Heritage Management at the University of Copenhagen\u2019s Forest and Landscape College respectively. Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev is a member of the Facebook-group \u2018Inkluderende milj\u00f8 p\u00e5 KU\u2019 (\u2018Inclusive environment at UCPH\u2019, ed.) which appeared as a reaction to Conservative Students and Frit Forum whom, in their campaign for the student council elections, used political slogans such as \u2018Identity politics, no thanks\u2019 and \u2018Victimisation readiness, no thanks\u2019. Both students believe it is acceptable to suppress certain views.<\/p>\n<p>Their view on the matter stands in stark contrast to those of three students previously interviewed by the University Post who raised concerns about the lack of open dialogue at the university. According to the latter, expressing centre-right views on campus may result in accusations of racism and privilege blindness. Similarly, it is their experience at the faculty that being left-leaning is the correct political persuasion as opposed to being centre-right.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The university is defintely an echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, student<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, certain centre-right proponent\u2019s view on humanity is downright harmful and offensive to human rights.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019ve accepted this notion that all ideas and opinions are valid, that it\u2019s okay to not like immigrants and trans-people, it\u2019s okay to hate women a little. But equal rights is not a matter of opinion. It\u2019s offensive to the notion of human rights,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev and Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz, there is a difference between views on tax issues and government spending, and what they deem racist, sexist, or otherwise oppressive views.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbJust because you identify as centre-right politically, I don\u2019t automatically dislike you,\u00ab says Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz. \u00bbThe question is, how do you treat other people? Do you discriminate in your choice of words? Are you hurting other people? Then we can\u2019t be friends.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>A feminist among Jutlandic hunters<\/h3>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev is not a student at the Faculty of Social Sciences but at the University of Copenhagen\u2019s Forest and Landscape College where many of her fellow students are \u00bbmen from Jutland who go hunting.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>In her daily life at school, she experiences being part of a minority which becomes evident as soon as she points out that something is racist or sexist. She feels that she is quickly dismissed as \u00bbthat feminist you have to tread lightly with.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Never-the-less she is not deterred. Once, a professor wanted students to discuss whether or not the word \u2018neger\u2019 (the Danish word for \u2018negro\u2019) was offensive. In response, Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev pointed out that that was not up to the professor and his 30 white students to decide.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI can decide for myself that I\u2019m not going to use that word, but it\u2019s not up to me whether or not I should be allowed to use it. In that case, I have to listen to what the injured party says,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev loves \u00bbtrying to make people understand how wrong their worldview is,\u00ab but she doubts that she has managed to change her fellow student\u2019s minds.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI have no desire to educate them or convince that I\u2019m right. But since I\u2019m the only one in my class with those convictions I figure I have to stand up for them,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>Due to among other things an internship, she has not been to the college campus for almost a year and in that time her views have only gotten more extreme, she says. Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz is surprised by her statement:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s funny how you call yourself extreme. To us, your views aren\u2019t particular extreme. It\u2019s just about respecting others,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/when-it-comes-to-open-dialogue-css-is-the-most-restrictive-environment-i-have-ever-encountered\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>When it comes to open dialogue CSS is the most restictive environment I have ever encountered<\/em><\/a><br \/>\n<!-- end of module 1 --><br \/>\nAnna-Oline Grarup Hertz cannot think of an example of a time when she has had to put her foot down in a debate in her anthropology programme.<\/p>\n<p>Within their own community of friends, the two students are not considered extremists in their views, but they are also perfectly aware of the fact that they live in an ideological echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p>It can be problematic, according to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, especially because it creates a \u00bbweird sense of distance between the university and the rest of society.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe university is definitely an echo chamber. I think my bubble burst when I leave our community of friends and I bump into someone in say Hiller\u00f8d who is using the N-word left and right.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>\u00bbA very clever gambit\u00ab<\/h3>\n<p>The current debate climate at the University of Copenhagen has been raised as an issue by the social democratic student organisation Frit Forum and the centre-right coalition Conservative Students.<\/p>\n<p>In 2019, the two student organisations formed an electoral alliance for the student council elections and campaigned under the mottos \u2018Identity politics, no thanks\u2019 and \u2018Victimisation readiness, no thanks\u2019. Two of the alliance\u2019s top candidates, Frederikke Werther and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.berlingske.dk\/kultur\/cille-hald-egholm-kalder-ekkokammeret-paa-ku-for-sindssygt-farligt-man\">Cille Hald Egholm<\/a>, were interviewed by Berlingske about their view on the current public debate environment at the university, and Frederikke Werther appeared on the radio show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dr.dk\/radio\/p1\/shitstorm\/shitstorm-2019-12-07\">Shitstorm on P1<\/a> addressing a meme-account that encouraged followers to vandalize her election posters on campus.<\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz deems said posters \u00bbextremely offensive\u00ab. According to her, several minority students have been offended by their message.<\/p>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev calls the centre-right focus on the culture of victimisation and identity politics \u00bba very clever gambit\u00ab. In doing so, they are creating a narrative of a problematic tendency at the university. According to her, the students from Frit Forum and Conservative Students are \u00bbchampions of the status quo, because the status quo works to their advantage.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>She says it is a pipedream to imagine a space where there is room for everyone. She presents a hypothetical scenario:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSay I throw a massive birthday party with an open-door policy. By opening my party to everyone, I risk that both Rasmus Paludan and my Muslim friend show up. If he [Paludan] really believes that all Muslims should be wiped out and that her life is worth nothing, then they can\u2019t be in the same room at a party.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>\u2018Racist\u2019 ruins the open dialogue<\/h3>\n<p>Neither Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz nor Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev think it is particularly constructive to label others as racist, privilege blind, or transphobic in a discussion, which according to students the University Post has been in contact with has happened in the past.<\/p>\n<p>However, they do not hesitate to label the words and actions of others as racist, but neither recalls ever having called anyone a racist to his or her face.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbA discussion would have to be really heated and I would have to have run out of arguments to make,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev who agrees with the centre-right students that labels restrict an open dialogue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Centre-right voters feel like there\u2019s no room for them and their views, but there are people in the world who are oppressed simply for being who they are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz, student<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz many people fail to recognise that racism takes on many subtle forms in society:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe word racist is pretty abrasive\u00ab she says. \u00bbBut we have to call it like we see it in order to expose people to the fact that racism is a very real thing in the world.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>To Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev reaching an understanding of that very point has been a long process. As a young girl, she thought racists were people who were vocal about not liking black people. Now her perspective has broadened.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt may be that you don\u2019t actively dislike brown people but you may still be involved in maintaining the societal structure that normalises racism.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, changing your worldview can be a difficult process. To her the debate stirs up a lot of emotions and she often feels angry, sad, frustrated and powerless\u2014but so do the centre-rightists, and she wants them to recognise this, too. It can be very hard to look past your own emotions and participate constructively in a discussion of a sensitive subject.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSometimes I don\u2019t know how to explain to people that they have to treat others well. If I have to do that, I already feel like there\u2019s a fundamental disconnect. If you don\u2019t understand what the problem is, when I say that you can\u2019t address a group of strangers as \u2018guys and girls\u2019, I really don\u2019t know how to make you understand that.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>It\u2019s okay to suppress certain views<\/h3>\n<p>Value-based politics in particular can drive a wedge between left and right-leaning students at the university. Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz says that she does not care if people want tax cuts or generally have a more free-market-economy view of the world, as long as they do not oppress or offend others.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbCentre-right voters feel like there\u2019s no room for them and their views, but there are people in the world who are oppressed simply for being who they are,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>People do not have a choice whether they are born with brown skin or in a transgendered body, according to Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz. But the centre-right and social democrat students choose their discriminating views of immigrants and non-binary people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/i-believe-in-two-genders-and-thats-practically-a-forbidden-belief-out-here\/\"><em>I believe in two genders and that&#8217;s practically a forbidden belief out here<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s completely okay to suppress those types of views,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019re debating from a standpoint under which there\u2019s a difference between views and simply being in the world. That makes it difficult to debate someone like Frederikke [Werther from Frit Forum], because she sees everything as views and not as politics,\u00ab says Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz.<\/p>\n<p>But Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz is adamant that there needs to be room for benign ignorance and curiosity in the public debate. She is also worried that the current public debate is dominated by two opposing frontlines from which people scream at each other instead of trying to understand each other.<\/p>\n<h3>The freedom to paint a swastika on your forehead<\/h3>\n<p>\u00bbPeople can say whatever they want,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev. But so far only old, white men and women have been allowed to define and benefit from academic freedom. According to her the problem lies elsewhere:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s not about feeling offended. It\u2019s about respecting each other. I have the right to call any person I meet an annoying asshole, but I don\u2019t do so because I know how to behave.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>When centre-right students do something discriminating or offensive, they are in reality limiting other people\u2019s freedom, she says:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s about the fact that nobody likes having their freedom restricted. But their freedom ends where other people\u2019s freedom starts. I think that is something we need to understand.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Cille Hald Egholm from Conservative Students can wear a sombrero to class every day, if she wants to, says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev. She just cannot wear one to a party organised by the university. She has to accept the fact that others may feel targeted and offended by her behaviour, she says:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbYou can paint a swastika on your forehead if that\u2019s what you want to do. But that\u2019s an extreme statement to make, so it\u2019s obviously going to have consequences, the most likely being that people will have nothing to do with you,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev.<\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz says that she does not understand the motivation for the centre-right student\u2019s election campaign and its message and she would like to pose a question:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIf you wake up one day and you\u2019re not allowed to wear a sombrero to a party, how will that limit your personal freedom?\u00ab<\/p>\n<p><em>Translation: Theis Duelund<\/em><br \/>\n<!-- end of module 2 --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz and Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev are both left-leaning in their political views. 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They are happy to debate tax issues with centre-right voters, but when it comes to race and minorities it becomes a question of human rights, and human rights are not up for debate, they say.","use_post_excerpt":false},{"acf_fc_layout":"Byline","is_author":false,"contributors":[{"use_registered_user":true,"user":{"ID":68,"user_firstname":"Drude Morthorst","user_lastname":"Rasmussen","nickname":"drude","user_nicename":"drude","display_name":"Drude Morthorst Rasmussen","user_email":"drude-rasmussen@hotmail.com","user_url":"","user_registered":"2018-07-23 08:22:06","user_description":"","user_avatar":"<img alt='' src='https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a2bc03e954e6c0fe466e22317b6b8fb4c9bf1b0099bb18e0239129596e51a752?s=96&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=g' srcset='https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a2bc03e954e6c0fe466e22317b6b8fb4c9bf1b0099bb18e0239129596e51a752?s=192&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-96 photo' height='96' width='96' loading='lazy' decoding='async'\/>"},"contributor_name":"","contributor_title":"","contributor_image":false}]},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>Some representatives of the centre-right in Denmark harbour views that are so oppressive and discriminating that they should be neither tolerated nor debated, according to two students at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/its-not-easy-expressing-your-centre-right-views-at-a-left-wing-faculty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">It&#8217;s not easy expressing your centre-right views at a left-wing faculty<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz and Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev study anthropology at the Faculty of Social Sciences and Forest and Natural and Cultural Heritage Management at the University of Copenhagen\u2019s Forest and Landscape College respectively. Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev is a member of the Facebook-group \u2018Inkluderende milj\u00f8 p\u00e5 KU\u2019 (\u2018Inclusive environment at UCPH\u2019, ed.) which appeared as a reaction to Conservative Students and Frit Forum whom, in their campaign for the student council elections, used political slogans such as \u2018Identity politics, no thanks\u2019 and \u2018Victimisation readiness, no thanks\u2019. Both students believe it is acceptable to suppress certain views.<\/p>\n<p>Their view on the matter stands in stark contrast to those of three students previously interviewed by the University Post who raised concerns about the lack of open dialogue at the university. According to the latter, expressing centre-right views on campus may result in accusations of racism and privilege blindness. Similarly, it is their experience at the faculty that being left-leaning is the correct political persuasion as opposed to being centre-right.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The university is defintely an echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, student<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, certain centre-right proponent\u2019s view on humanity is downright harmful and offensive to human rights.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019ve accepted this notion that all ideas and opinions are valid, that it\u2019s okay to not like immigrants and trans-people, it\u2019s okay to hate women a little. But equal rights is not a matter of opinion. It\u2019s offensive to the notion of human rights,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev and Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz, there is a difference between views on tax issues and government spending, and what they deem racist, sexist, or otherwise oppressive views.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbJust because you identify as centre-right politically, I don\u2019t automatically dislike you,\u00ab says Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz. \u00bbThe question is, how do you treat other people? Do you discriminate in your choice of words? Are you hurting other people? Then we can\u2019t be friends.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>A feminist among Jutlandic hunters<\/h3>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev is not a student at the Faculty of Social Sciences but at the University of Copenhagen\u2019s Forest and Landscape College where many of her fellow students are \u00bbmen from Jutland who go hunting.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>In her daily life at school, she experiences being part of a minority which becomes evident as soon as she points out that something is racist or sexist. She feels that she is quickly dismissed as \u00bbthat feminist you have to tread lightly with.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Never-the-less she is not deterred. Once, a professor wanted students to discuss whether or not the word \u2018neger\u2019 (the Danish word for \u2018negro\u2019) was offensive. In response, Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev pointed out that that was not up to the professor and his 30 white students to decide.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI can decide for myself that I\u2019m not going to use that word, but it\u2019s not up to me whether or not I should be allowed to use it. In that case, I have to listen to what the injured party says,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev loves \u00bbtrying to make people understand how wrong their worldview is,\u00ab but she doubts that she has managed to change her fellow student\u2019s minds.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI have no desire to educate them or convince that I\u2019m right. But since I\u2019m the only one in my class with those convictions I figure I have to stand up for them,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>Due to among other things an internship, she has not been to the college campus for almost a year and in that time her views have only gotten more extreme, she says. Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz is surprised by her statement:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s funny how you call yourself extreme. To us, your views aren\u2019t particular extreme. It\u2019s just about respecting others,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/when-it-comes-to-open-dialogue-css-is-the-most-restrictive-environment-i-have-ever-encountered\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>When it comes to open dialogue CSS is the most restictive environment I have ever encountered<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":99743,"id":99743,"title":"venstre3","filename":"venstre3-scaled.jpg","filesize":276744,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-scaled.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/det-er-okay-at-lukke-ned-for-holdninger-der-undertrykker-andre\/venstre3\/","alt":"","author":"71","description":"","caption":"","name":"venstre3","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":99733,"date":"2020-01-23 10:22:05","modified":"2020-01-23 14:53:45","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":1709,"height":2560,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-480x719.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":719,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-768x1150.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":1150,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-1280x1917.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":1917,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-1025x1536.jpg","1536x1536-width":1025,"1536x1536-height":1536,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-1367x2048.jpg","2048x2048-width":1367,"2048x2048-height":2048,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-290x434.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":434,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-700x1049.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":1049,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-990x1483.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":1483}},"style":"narrow","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"Neither Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz nor Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev think it is particularly constructive to label others racist, privilege blind, or transphobic in a discussion."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz cannot think of an example of a time when she has had to put her foot down in a debate in her anthropology programme.<\/p>\n<p>Within their own community of friends, the two students are not considered extremists in their views, but they are also perfectly aware of the fact that they live in an ideological echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p>It can be problematic, according to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, especially because it creates a \u00bbweird sense of distance between the university and the rest of society.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe university is definitely an echo chamber. I think my bubble burst when I leave our community of friends and I bump into someone in say Hiller\u00f8d who is using the N-word left and right.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>\u00bbA very clever gambit\u00ab<\/h3>\n<p>The current debate climate at the University of Copenhagen has been raised as an issue by the social democratic student organisation Frit Forum and the centre-right coalition Conservative Students.<\/p>\n<p>In 2019, the two student organisations formed an electoral alliance for the student council elections and campaigned under the mottos \u2018Identity politics, no thanks\u2019 and \u2018Victimisation readiness, no thanks\u2019. Two of the alliance\u2019s top candidates, Frederikke Werther and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.berlingske.dk\/kultur\/cille-hald-egholm-kalder-ekkokammeret-paa-ku-for-sindssygt-farligt-man\">Cille Hald Egholm<\/a>, were interviewed by Berlingske about their view on the current public debate environment at the university, and Frederikke Werther appeared on the radio show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dr.dk\/radio\/p1\/shitstorm\/shitstorm-2019-12-07\">Shitstorm on P1<\/a> addressing a meme-account that encouraged followers to vandalize her election posters on campus.<\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz deems said posters \u00bbextremely offensive\u00ab. According to her, several minority students have been offended by their message.<\/p>\n<p>Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev calls the centre-right focus on the culture of victimisation and identity politics \u00bba very clever gambit\u00ab. In doing so, they are creating a narrative of a problematic tendency at the university. According to her, the students from Frit Forum and Conservative Students are \u00bbchampions of the status quo, because the status quo works to their advantage.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>She says it is a pipedream to imagine a space where there is room for everyone. She presents a hypothetical scenario:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSay I throw a massive birthday party with an open-door policy. By opening my party to everyone, I risk that both Rasmus Paludan and my Muslim friend show up. If he [Paludan] really believes that all Muslims should be wiped out and that her life is worth nothing, then they can\u2019t be in the same room at a party.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>\u2018Racist\u2019 ruins the open dialogue<\/h3>\n<p>Neither Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz nor Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev think it is particularly constructive to label others as racist, privilege blind, or transphobic in a discussion, which according to students the University Post has been in contact with has happened in the past.<\/p>\n<p>However, they do not hesitate to label the words and actions of others as racist, but neither recalls ever having called anyone a racist to his or her face.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbA discussion would have to be really heated and I would have to have run out of arguments to make,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev who agrees with the centre-right students that labels restrict an open dialogue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Centre-right voters feel like there\u2019s no room for them and their views, but there are people in the world who are oppressed simply for being who they are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz, student<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz many people fail to recognise that racism takes on many subtle forms in society:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe word racist is pretty abrasive\u00ab she says. \u00bbBut we have to call it like we see it in order to expose people to the fact that racism is a very real thing in the world.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>To Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev reaching an understanding of that very point has been a long process. As a young girl, she thought racists were people who were vocal about not liking black people. Now her perspective has broadened.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt may be that you don\u2019t actively dislike brown people but you may still be involved in maintaining the societal structure that normalises racism.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>According to Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev, changing your worldview can be a difficult process. To her the debate stirs up a lot of emotions and she often feels angry, sad, frustrated and powerless\u2014but so do the centre-rightists, and she wants them to recognise this, too. It can be very hard to look past your own emotions and participate constructively in a discussion of a sensitive subject.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSometimes I don\u2019t know how to explain to people that they have to treat others well. If I have to do that, I already feel like there\u2019s a fundamental disconnect. If you don\u2019t understand what the problem is, when I say that you can\u2019t address a group of strangers as \u2018guys and girls\u2019, I really don\u2019t know how to make you understand that.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>It\u2019s okay to suppress certain views<\/h3>\n<p>Value-based politics in particular can drive a wedge between left and right-leaning students at the university. Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz says that she does not care if people want tax cuts or generally have a more free-market-economy view of the world, as long as they do not oppress or offend others.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbCentre-right voters feel like there\u2019s no room for them and their views, but there are people in the world who are oppressed simply for being who they are,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p>People do not have a choice whether they are born with brown skin or in a transgendered body, according to Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz. But the centre-right and social democrat students choose their discriminating views of immigrants and non-binary people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/i-believe-in-two-genders-and-thats-practically-a-forbidden-belief-out-here\/\"><em>I believe in two genders and that&#8217;s practically a forbidden belief out here<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s completely okay to suppress those types of views,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019re debating from a standpoint under which there\u2019s a difference between views and simply being in the world. That makes it difficult to debate someone like Frederikke [Werther from Frit Forum], because she sees everything as views and not as politics,\u00ab says Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz.<\/p>\n<p>But Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz is adamant that there needs to be room for benign ignorance and curiosity in the public debate. She is also worried that the current public debate is dominated by two opposing frontlines from which people scream at each other instead of trying to understand each other.<\/p>\n<h3>The freedom to paint a swastika on your forehead<\/h3>\n<p>\u00bbPeople can say whatever they want,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev. But so far only old, white men and women have been allowed to define and benefit from academic freedom. According to her the problem lies elsewhere:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s not about feeling offended. It\u2019s about respecting each other. I have the right to call any person I meet an annoying asshole, but I don\u2019t do so because I know how to behave.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>When centre-right students do something discriminating or offensive, they are in reality limiting other people\u2019s freedom, she says:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s about the fact that nobody likes having their freedom restricted. But their freedom ends where other people\u2019s freedom starts. I think that is something we need to understand.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Cille Hald Egholm from Conservative Students can wear a sombrero to class every day, if she wants to, says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev. She just cannot wear one to a party organised by the university. She has to accept the fact that others may feel targeted and offended by her behaviour, she says:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbYou can paint a swastika on your forehead if that\u2019s what you want to do. But that\u2019s an extreme statement to make, so it\u2019s obviously going to have consequences, the most likely being that people will have nothing to do with you,\u00ab says Mette-Marie N\u00f8rlev.<\/p>\n<p>Anna-Oline Grarup Hertz says that she does not understand the motivation for the centre-right student\u2019s election campaign and its message and she would like to pose a question:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIf you wake up one day and you\u2019re not allowed to wear a sombrero to a party, how will that limit your personal freedom?\u00ab<\/p>\n<p><em>Translation: Theis Duelund<\/em><\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"ArticleEnd"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Newsletter","lang_select":"Dansk","identifier":"Nyhedsbrev","headline":"Modtag et ugentligt nyhedsoverblik i din inbox","button_text":"Tilmeld nu","class":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"OtherStories","headline":"","hand_picked_posts":false,"references":false,"category":false,"theme":false,"number_of_posts":"4","style":"default"}]},"taxonomyData":{"category":[{"term_id":2177,"name":"Academic life","slug":"academic-life","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":2177,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":67,"filter":"raw"},{"term_id":44,"name":"Campus","slug":"campus","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":44,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":1547,"filter":"raw"},{"term_id":48,"name":"Politics","slug":"politics","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":48,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":1035,"filter":"raw"}],"post_tag":[],"post_format":[],"expression":[{"term_id":18,"name":"Feature Article","slug":"feature_article","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":18,"taxonomy":"expression","description":"","parent":0,"count":1200,"filter":"raw"}],"translation_priority":[{"term_id":5468,"name":"Optional","slug":"optional-en","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":5468,"taxonomy":"translation_priority","description":"","parent":0,"count":672,"filter":"raw"}]},"featured_media_url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/venstre3-1280x1917.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/100655","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/71"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=100655"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/100655\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":100836,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/100655\/revisions\/100836"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/99744"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=100655"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=100655"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=100655"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}