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Management does not seem to have a clear strategy, and this leaves it up to the individual researcher to decide what to cut back on: research or teaching.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read also:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/iran-researcher-if-i-answer-journalists-calls-my-career-will-suffer\/\">Iran researcher: If I answer journalists&#8217; calls, my career will suffer<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>S\u00f8ren Eilers understands the frustration expressed by Rasmus Elling, associate professor in Iranian studies, who said to University Post that sharing expertise with the public should be a quantifiable parameter for researchers, and part of their employment contract.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe problem is that there are no clearly defined resources allocated to science communication. It would be a good idea to specify how much time I should spend disseminating my research, in per cent,\u00ab says S\u00f8ren Eilers, who won Science magazine\u2019s communication prize in 2013 for a project involving advanced mathematics and Lego bricks.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSome people think science communication is nothing more than talking about your research at the end of the day. But if you want to do it well and reach as many people as possible, you have to create a new narrative about your research results. It is fun and rewarding, but it takes time, and you can\u2019t just fit it in here and there. Most of the work I won the prize for was done during weekends or vacations, because I felt compelled to do it,\u00ab says S\u00f8ren Eilers.<\/p>\n<h3>\u00bbMy contract will not be renewed\u00ab<\/h3>\n<p>Science communication being a spare-time activity is something Sabrina Vitting-Seerup, post doc at the Department of Science Education, is very familiar with. She won the World Public Speaking Championship in 2016 and feels that communicating her research results to a wide audience is one of her most important duties. But there is no time allocated to it in her work schedule.<br \/>\n<!-- end of module 1 --><br \/>\n\u00bbThe requirements for publishing articles and collaborations, gaining international experience, teaching, supervision, and administration are very time-consuming. Even doing the bare minimum, post docs like me work more than 37 hours a week. On top of that, I am encouraged to do share my results with the public, but it is basically unpaid work,\u00ab says\u00a0 Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bb\u2018We should do it because we feel compelled to\u2019 is a phrase I hear often. So it is clearly not one of my main responsibilities. Currently, science communication is for idiots who like doing unpaid work,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/prorector-of-course-we-hope-our-researchers-want-to-communicate-to-a-wide-audience\/\"> Prorector: \u00bbOf course we hope our researchers want to communicate to a wide audience\u00ab<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Prorector David Dreyer Lassen says the University sees science communication as one of its most important duties. Is it not therefore one of the official criteria for new hires and promotions?<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Universities Act specifies that Danish universities must engage in research, teaching, and dissemination. But our contracts only state how much time we should spend on teaching, research, and administration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Professor Marie-Louise Bech Nosch<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3>Took a pay cut to do lectures in her free time<\/h3>\n<p>\u00bbI know that science communication comes under \u2018relevance to society\u2019 in the merit criteria, and that I score very highly in that regard. But because I spend time on science communication, many of my post doc colleagues have published more than I have. So, my contract will not be renewed when it ends next year. The more time I spend on dissemination, the less likely it is that I can keep on working at the University. It is a paradox, especially since I am researching science communication,\u00ab says Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>She has chosen to work part time and take a pay cut to have time to give lectures outside of the university. And it irritates her when the university management says that researchers who want to do more science communication should simply ask their line manager for permission.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt totally undermines the structural issues. Of course I have asked my line managers, and they are very supportive of me spending time on science communication,\u00ab says Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI have asked them why I can\u2019t publish fewer research papers \u2013 which nobody reads \u2013 and instead spend that time making a handbook for the public, doing interviews, and giving talks. But they cannot give me permission to do that, because there are official requirements we must live up to. And as a temporary staff member, I am competing with other researchers. The head of my department does not decide the competition parameters.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Sabrina Vitting-Seerup wants universities to change this rigid structure.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThere could be different types of employment contract, for example. Some researchers could have a larger amount of teaching while others could do more communication \u2013 and the publishing requirements would be reduced proportionally, of course.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>Two systems contradict each other<\/h3>\n<p>Marie-Louise Bech Nosch is a professor at the Saxo Institute and president of the Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters. Like Sabrina Vittig-Seerup and S\u00f8ren Eilers, she supports Rasmus Elling\u2019s call to action.<\/p>\n<p>It is a general problem \u2013 and a structural one, she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe Universities Act states that Danish universities must do research, teaching, and dissemination. But our contracts only specify how much time we should spend on teaching, research, and administration. Two systems contradict each other, and no solution has been found yet. This creates a dilemma for those of us that have to do the work,\u00ab says Marie-Louise Bech Nosch, who often spends her spare time on science communication.<\/p>\n<p>She echoes S\u00f8rens Eilers suggestion to quantify how much time a researcher should spend on dissemination of their results to a wider audience. 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should spend 50 per cent of your time on research, 50 per cent on teaching and 50 per cent on admin and science communication.\u00ab Researchers may joke about how busy they are, but not having time to do research is a real issue."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Standfirst","subject":"Research dissemination","text":"Communicating research results to the public is important, but it is not specified in researchers\u2019 contracts, so they are forced to do it in their spare time, three researchers say.","use_post_excerpt":false},{"acf_fc_layout":"Byline","is_author":false,"contributors":[{"use_registered_user":false,"user":false,"contributor_name":"Milla M\u00f8lgaard","contributor_title":"Freelance journalist","contributor_image":false}]},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>\u00bbYou should spend 50 per cent of your time on research, 50 per cent on teaching and 50 per cent on admin and science communication.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>This may be an inside joke among researchers, but it reveals how some academic employees perceive the demands that are placed on their time, says S\u00f8ren Eilers, a mathematics professor at UCPH.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe university says that research communication to a wide audience is very important, but it is unclear how we should make time to do it. Management does not seem to have a clear strategy, and this leaves it up to the individual researcher to decide what to cut back on: research or teaching.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read also:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/iran-researcher-if-i-answer-journalists-calls-my-career-will-suffer\/\">Iran researcher: If I answer journalists&#8217; calls, my career will suffer<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>S\u00f8ren Eilers understands the frustration expressed by Rasmus Elling, associate professor in Iranian studies, who said to University Post that sharing expertise with the public should be a quantifiable parameter for researchers, and part of their employment contract.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe problem is that there are no clearly defined resources allocated to science communication. It would be a good idea to specify how much time I should spend disseminating my research, in per cent,\u00ab says S\u00f8ren Eilers, who won Science magazine\u2019s communication prize in 2013 for a project involving advanced mathematics and Lego bricks.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbSome people think science communication is nothing more than talking about your research at the end of the day. But if you want to do it well and reach as many people as possible, you have to create a new narrative about your research results. It is fun and rewarding, but it takes time, and you can\u2019t just fit it in here and there. Most of the work I won the prize for was done during weekends or vacations, because I felt compelled to do it,\u00ab says S\u00f8ren Eilers.<\/p>\n<h3>\u00bbMy contract will not be renewed\u00ab<\/h3>\n<p>Science communication being a spare-time activity is something Sabrina Vitting-Seerup, post doc at the Department of Science Education, is very familiar with. She won the World Public Speaking Championship in 2016 and feels that communicating her research results to a wide audience is one of her most important duties. But there is no time allocated to it in her work schedule.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Quote","quote":"\u2018We should do it because we feel compelled to\u2019 is a phrase I hear often. So it is clearly not one of my main responsibilities.","quotee":"Sabrina Vitting-Seerup, postdoc","style":"extended"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>\u00bbThe requirements for publishing articles and collaborations, gaining international experience, teaching, supervision, and administration are very time-consuming. Even doing the bare minimum, post docs like me work more than 37 hours a week. On top of that, I am encouraged to do share my results with the public, but it is basically unpaid work,\u00ab says\u00a0 Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bb\u2018We should do it because we feel compelled to\u2019 is a phrase I hear often. So it is clearly not one of my main responsibilities. Currently, science communication is for idiots who like doing unpaid work,\u00ab she says.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/prorector-of-course-we-hope-our-researchers-want-to-communicate-to-a-wide-audience\/\"> Prorector: \u00bbOf course we hope our researchers want to communicate to a wide audience\u00ab<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Prorector David Dreyer Lassen says the University sees science communication as one of its most important duties. Is it not therefore one of the official criteria for new hires and promotions?<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Universities Act specifies that Danish universities must engage in research, teaching, and dissemination. But our contracts only state how much time we should spend on teaching, research, and administration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Professor Marie-Louise Bech Nosch<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3>Took a pay cut to do lectures in her free time<\/h3>\n<p>\u00bbI know that science communication comes under \u2018relevance to society\u2019 in the merit criteria, and that I score very highly in that regard. But because I spend time on science communication, many of my post doc colleagues have published more than I have. So, my contract will not be renewed when it ends next year. The more time I spend on dissemination, the less likely it is that I can keep on working at the University. It is a paradox, especially since I am researching science communication,\u00ab says Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>She has chosen to work part time and take a pay cut to have time to give lectures outside of the university. And it irritates her when the university management says that researchers who want to do more science communication should simply ask their line manager for permission.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt totally undermines the structural issues. Of course I have asked my line managers, and they are very supportive of me spending time on science communication,\u00ab says Sabrina Vitting-Seerup.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI have asked them why I can\u2019t publish fewer research papers \u2013 which nobody reads \u2013 and instead spend that time making a handbook for the public, doing interviews, and giving talks. But they cannot give me permission to do that, because there are official requirements we must live up to. And as a temporary staff member, I am competing with other researchers. The head of my department does not decide the competition parameters.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Sabrina Vitting-Seerup wants universities to change this rigid structure.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThere could be different types of employment contract, for example. Some researchers could have a larger amount of teaching while others could do more communication \u2013 and the publishing requirements would be reduced proportionally, of course.\u00ab<\/p>\n<h3>Two systems contradict each other<\/h3>\n<p>Marie-Louise Bech Nosch is a professor at the Saxo Institute and president of the Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters. Like Sabrina Vittig-Seerup and S\u00f8ren Eilers, she supports Rasmus Elling\u2019s call to action.<\/p>\n<p>It is a general problem \u2013 and a structural one, she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe Universities Act states that Danish universities must do research, teaching, and dissemination. But our contracts only specify how much time we should spend on teaching, research, and administration. Two systems contradict each other, and no solution has been found yet. This creates a dilemma for those of us that have to do the work,\u00ab says Marie-Louise Bech Nosch, who often spends her spare time on science communication.<\/p>\n<p>She echoes S\u00f8rens Eilers suggestion to quantify how much time a researcher should spend on dissemination of their results to a wider audience. A reasonable allocation could be ten per cent of researchers\u2019 time, she suggests.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIn the current situation, you might be able to negotiate with your line manager and get this kind of an allocation, but because the university has such tight budgets, I am sure most managers would prefer us to spend ten per cent of our time on teaching instead.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"ArticleEnd"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Newsletter","lang_select":"en","identifier":"Newsletter","headline":"Get an email with our top stories","button_text":"Sign up here","class":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"OtherStories","headline":"","hand_picked_posts":true,"references":[{"reference":{"ID":144000,"post_author":"85","post_date":"2022-12-19 08:06:48","post_date_gmt":"2022-12-19 07:06:48","post_content":"<span class=\"dropcap\">T<\/span>he calls usually start at 6 am. Sometimes associate professor Rasmus Elling talks to between five and fifteen journalists in a day. For the past few months, he has been bombarded with requests for information about the protests in Iran, which started with the death of 22-year-old Jina Mahsa Amini and have since spread throughout the nation.\r\n<blockquote>There are technically only one and a half associate professors in Denmark who specialise in Iran and speak Persian, so of course our phones have been blowing up.\r\n<p class=\"quotee\">Rasmus Elling<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n\u00bb There are technically only one and a half associate professors in Denmark who specialise in Iran and speak Persian, so of course our phones have been blowing up now that our subject is finally in focus,\u00ab says Rasmus Elling, who has a PhD in Iranian Studies and works at the Department of Cross-cultural and Regional studies (ToRS) at the University of Copenhagen (UCPH).\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/currently-science-communication-is-for-idiots-who-like-doing-unpaid-work\/\">\u00bbCurrently, science communication is for idiots who like doing unpaid work\u00ab<\/a><\/em>\r\n\r\nIt is rare for journalists to get a visa to visit Iran, so most articles about the country are written from afar. Because of this, journalists need to verify the information they receive from Iran, which lacks free, independent media sources. And Rasmus Elling, with his decades of research experience and command of the Persian language, is an invaluable resource for this.\r\n\r\n\u00bbHumanities researchers are crucial to journalists\u2019 ability to write articles. As well as interviews, we help them with information evaluation and verification, and contextualisation of the news. We provide background information, connect them with sources and informants in the country, and translate social media content, for example. This all takes time, and I am glued to the screen most of the day to stay informed, as the situation changes minute by minute. \u00ab\r\n<h3>Talking to journalists is a full-time job<\/h3>\r\nIt is good that journalists ask for academic input when they are writing about complex issues, says Rasmus Elling, and he is happy to share his expertise. He sees communicating with the public as an essential task for researchers.\r\n\r\nBut he is also frustrated. For the past few months, helping journalists to understand this pivotal moment in Iran\u2019s modern history has amounted to the equivalent of a full-time job for Rasmus Elling, both during and after normal office hours. But it does not give him any credit in the academic system.\n<!-- end of module 1 -->\nTo make matters worse, niche subjects like Iranian studies are under constant threat of closure, and cutbacks make it hard for Rasmus Elling and his colleagues to do their job during periods when their expertise is in high demand outside of their department, he says.\r\n<blockquote>Drop what you are doing, come to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, tell us everything you know, and do a load of work, they said. Because now it was an urgent matter of national security to understand something about a niche discipline that is constantly under threat of closure.\r\n<p class=\"quotee\">Rasmus Elling<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n\u00bb\u2019Shut down the humanities\u2019, is a common slogan in the public debate; the niche subjects and nerdy language disciplines are portrayed as worthless, and politicians repeatedly devalue them and make them the target of smear campaigns.\u00ab\r\n\r\n\u00bbWe are under constant pressure from reforms, which cut our resources, and from mounting teaching pressure, even in small subjects, and that makes it hard to focus on research,\u00ab says Rasmus Elling.\r\n\r\nRasmus Elling wrote about this issue on Facebook and LinkedIn recently, vowing not answer any more calls from journalists for the time being, so he can dedicate his time to research and teaching without distractions.\r\n\r\n\u00bbIf I had answered the phone every time a journalist called in the past two months, I would not have had nearly enough time for my main responsibilities at the Department. As researchers, we are penalised for that. But if I don\u2019t, then what do the Danish taxpayers get out of having an associate professor in Iranian studies on staff? A lot of people will disagree with my approach. I feel I am expected to be available whenever I am called upon. On the other hand, Denmark does not want to pay for enough researchers so we have time to do our research, teach, and communicate to the public about a topic as important as Iran,\u00ab said Rasmus Elling.\r\n<h3>\u00bbDrop what you are doing\u00ab<\/h3>\r\nThe situation in Iran is not the first time Rasmus Elling and his colleagues have been called upon in a crisis. After 9\/11, the Danish authorities realised they needed Persian speakers and experts on Afghanistan, where the Danish military was involved in an intervention. And the Danish Military Academy expected Rasmus Elling\u2019s colleagues to help to teach and ensure the quality of the training programme for Persian language officers.\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/prorector-of-course-we-hope-our-researchers-want-to-communicate-to-a-wide-audience\/\">Prorector: \u00bbOf course we hope our researchers want to communicate to a wide audience\u00ab<\/a><\/em>\r\n\r\nDuring the Muhammad Cartoon Crisis, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs desperately needed speakers of Arabic, Persian, and Turkish.\r\n\r\n\u00bb\u2019Drop what you are doing, come to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, tell us everything you know, and do a load of work,\u2019 they said. Because now it was an urgent matter of national security to understand something about a niche discipline that is constantly under threat of closure. This is a stark contrast to all the occasions when politicians say there is no need for a broad palette of language-based regional studies.\u00ab\r\n\r\nRasmus Elling continues:\r\n\r\n\u00bbThe work we do is very valuable. Our alumni get jobs and are sought after in society. Everyone agrees that Denmark lacks language skills. At the same time, these subjects are neglected and threatened with closure. It is grotesque. Of course, this means that fewer students are brave enough to apply to small humanities subjects.\u00ab\r\n<h3>Falling behind on everything<\/h3>\r\nRasmus Elling says he has fallen behind on every aspect of his work in recent months. He is currently planning a lecture for Oxford University, and he had to reschedule our interview several times. He made an exception to his no-interview rule and spoke to the University Post, because he wants to make political decision-makers aware of this issue and start a debate. How can research dissemination become a quantifiable parameter for researchers on an equal footing with peer-reviewed articles and funding, which give points in the merit system for becoming a professor?\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt is unreasonable to expect us to spend time on communication without being paid for it. It\u2019s as simple as that,\u00ab said Rasmus Elling.\r\n\r\n\u00bbWhen a researcher publishes a certain number of papers in academic journals, which are ranked according how important they are deemed to be, that is called impact, and it does wonders for their career. But who reads those articles? Seriously, how many people read them, besides researchers?\u00ab Rasmus Elling wonders.\r\n\r\n\u00bbI feel we have a duty to share what we know with society, but if it does not give you merit points, it means that people like me hamper their career progression by spending time on it. The time I spend thinking about what to say and searching for background information, doing interviews and writing articles for newspapers is time that I cannot spend on research and external grant applications. It takes time away from writing articles for highly ranked international journals. UCPH is not the only university that has this problem. It is how the system works, because \u201cdry\u201d subjects are underfinanced and overburdened.\u00ab\r\n<h3>Massive impact<\/h3>\r\nRasmus Elling says that line manager fully supports his decision to put talking to journalists on hold and take care of himself, even in busy periods. But although he has put his phone on silent for now, he knows he will have to turn it back on again in the near future. Because he wants to make communication a significant aspect of his career.\r\n\r\n\u00bbI have decided that I can\u2019t just stop doing research dissemination in these situations. Applying for external funding and publishing articles will have to wait.\u00ab\r\n\r\nThis is why Rasmus Elling wrote his book Iran\u2019s Modern History (Gyldendal) in language non-academic readers can understand.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThe book does not benefit my research career, but I wrote it because I feel I have a duty to share what I know with the public. It has received good reviews, and readers tell me how important it is \u2013 so it has made a great impact,\u00ab says Rasmus Elling, who feels publishing his book is the high point in his career so far, even if it is outside of the university system.\r\n<blockquote>Those in power need to realise that the humanities are fundamental to an enlightened society, the basis of our understanding of the world we live in \u2013 and they should respect and acknowledge that instead of campaigning against the faculty time and time again.\r\n<p class=\"quotee\">Rasmus Elling<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<h3>No academic credit<\/h3>\r\nWhen Rasmus Elling goes to DR to make a video about the protests in Iran that gets 150,000 views, he feels that his expertise is beneficial to the public, and this makes it worthwhile, even if he gets no academic credit for it.\r\n\r\n\u00bbResearch-based science communication has huge potential, but there is no formal credit for it. That is a real shame. I think researchers would make a real impact on society if they had the time. We don\u2019t all have to focus on science communication in a big way, but it should be worthwhile for those of us who want to and have the ability to do so. In short, universities need to find clear-cut, tangible ways to acknowledge research dissemination to the general public,\u00ab says Rasmus Elling.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThose in power need to realise that the Humanities are fundamental to an enlightened society, the basis of our understanding of the world we live in \u2013 and to respect and acknowledge that instead of campaigning against the faculty time and time again.\u00ab\n<!-- end of module 2 -->\n","post_title":"Iran researcher: If I answer journalists\u2019 calls, my career will suffer","post_excerpt":"Journalists need his language skills and in-depth understanding of the country. \u00a0But press interviews take time away from his research and do not earn him points in the University merit system. Sharing scientific findings with the public should be a quantifiable parameter for researchers, he argues.","post_status":"publish","comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","post_password":"","post_name":"iran-researcher-if-i-answer-journalists-calls-my-career-will-suffer","to_ping":"","pinged":"","post_modified":"2022-12-20 08:30:25","post_modified_gmt":"2022-12-20 07:30:25","post_content_filtered":"","post_parent":0,"guid":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/lektor-rasmus-elling-har-slukket-sin-telefon\/","menu_order":0,"post_type":"post","post_mime_type":"","comment_count":"0","filter":"raw"}},{"reference":{"ID":144066,"post_author":"85","post_date":"2022-12-19 08:59:57","post_date_gmt":"2022-12-19 07:59:57","post_content":"Make science communication to the public a quantifiable parameter for researchers. This is the call to action by Rasmus Elling, associate professor in Iranian studies. In an interview with the University Post, he said that sharing research results and expertise in the press hampers researchers\u2019 career development, because it is not acknowledged by the university merit system.\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/iran-researcher-if-i-answer-journalists-calls-my-career-will-suffer\/\"><em> Iran researcher: If I answer journalists\u2019 calls, my career will suffer<\/em><\/a>\r\n\r\nProrector of research at the University of Copenhagen, David Dreyer Lassen welcomes the discussion.\r\n\r\n\u00bbScience communication is something that UCPH prioritises, and it is something society expects of us. The dissemination of research results to a wide audience is something that we are preoccupied with. Of course, it is something we want our researchers to engage in,\u00ab he says.\r\n\r\nRasmus Elling\u2019s appeal comes after countless requests from journalists for him to share his expertise on the protests in Iran during the past few months. He has spent the equivalent of full-time working hours on communicating what he knows, without any concrete way to measure his efforts. This is very different to the time spent on funding applications, teaching, or writing research papers.\r\n\r\nRasmus Elling emphasises that he does not want this to be about him. It is a broader discussion about research duties. He is one of many researchers the University Post has spoken to who want to raise the issue. For example, post doc Sabrina Vittig-Seerup calls science communication a job for \u00bbidiots who like unpaid work.\u00ab\r\n<h3>An official requirement for new hires and promotions<\/h3>\r\n<em>David Dreyer Lassen, what is your response to researchers who feel they are penalised for spending time on disseminating their knowledge, because they spend less time on tasks that can be quantified?<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbI think it is a false dichotomy to talk about research and teaching as core duties and science communication as something separate to that. We place a lot of emphasis on communication and see it as one of the university\u2019s main responsibilities. In fact, it is so important that it is an official criterion for new hires and promotions,\u00ab says David Dreyer Lassen, with reference to the so-called merit criteria that were implemented at UCPH two years ago.\r\n\r\nThe merit criteria focus on researchers\u2019 contribution to popular science communication, and frame it as societal impact.\r\n\r\n<em>Nonetheless, several researchers we have spoken to still feel it is not a core duty to disseminate research results to a wide audience. What would you say to them?<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbI would say that if they feel there is an issue regarding recognition of the science communication they are doing, they should speak to the head of their department and discuss what their expectations are, and how that fits into their career as a whole.\u00ab\n<!-- end of module 1 -->\n<em>But surely it is harder to quantify participating in background interviews, news articles, and debate programmes than it is being published in a high-ranking research journal or teaching a certain number of classes?<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt is fair enough if some researchers see it that way, but I am not sure I agree it is harder to quantify. It is quite simple to track what you have done in the press. And we know that it takes longer than the ten minutes that are shown on P1 or Deadline. There is preparation time too. I do acknowledge, however, that impact is hard to measure at the next level of abstraction. It is difficult to quantify the effects of science communication in society or on political decisions, for example.\u00ab\r\n<h3>No need for a new system<\/h3>\r\n<em>These researchers feel there is a dilemma because they fall behind on their research when they spend time on communication. The time spent on writing an editorial or appearing on a TV show is taken from writing grant applications or peer-reviewed articles.<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt is the classic dilemma. Everyone has to prioritise their time. This also applies to the research projects researchers choose, and how they prepare for teaching. It should be an ongoing discussion between them and their line manager. Often, successful science communication will generate interest from the bodies that give grants and other potential collaboration partners.\u00ab\r\n\r\n<em>Have you thought of ways to create a system for researchers who work in niche subjects, to support their important communication efforts during periods of high demand?<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbI am not sure we need a new system. I understand that niche disciplines may experience busy periods. But that is also the case for larger subjects, because it may be one individual that is in high demand. The more specialised the subject, the more interest there is from the media, whether it is Covid, climate change, or Iran. And the more specialised a researcher is, the harder it is to hire someone to take over while they are away. Sometimes this may mean that they are so busy they have to cut back on teaching, or that they don\u2019t get some of their research done. It has to be an ongoing dialogue between them and their line manager.\u00ab\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/currently-science-communication-is-for-idiots-who-like-doing-unpaid-work\/\">\u00bbCurrently, science communication is for idiots who like doing unpaid work\u00ab<\/a><\/em>\r\n\r\n<em>Despite the new merit criteria, we have spoken to several researchers who feel that media communication is not acknowledged enough by the University. How can you do more to ensure researchers are aware that UCPH prioritises science communication?<\/em>\r\n<blockquote>I wouldn\u2019t say that researchers need to spend X amount of hours on science communication. I would rather take it ad hoc as part of an open dialogue.\r\n<p class=\"quotee\">David Dreyer Lassen<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n\u00bbWe have to communicate that better. It is reasonable if we have not made that clear. Then we must try to improve that.\u00ab\r\n\r\n<em>Rasmus Elling told us that in his contract, the number of hours he must spend on teaching is specified, but not how much time he should spend on research and dissemination. Should that be part of researchers\u2019 contracts, if science communication is so integral to your hiring and promotion criteria?<\/em>\r\n\r\n\u00bbI wouldn\u2019t say that researchers need to spend a certain amount of hours on science communication. I would rather take it ad hoc as part of an open dialogue, and the requirements may vary for different researchers,\u00ab says David Dreyer Lassen, who understands Rasmus Elling\u2019s frustration about humanities subjects being denigrated in the public debate, while he and his colleagues provide valuable insights to the press and authorities.\r\n\r\n\u00bbI agree that it is a paradox that some politicians berate the humanities and then ask for researchers\u2019 time and expertise. Niche subjects with a small number of students like Iranian studies have fewer staff members. But that does not mean their subject matter is less important. Many humanities researchers are very good communicators and make a real impact on some of society\u2019s greatest challenges.\u00ab\n<!-- end of module 2 -->\n","post_title":"Prorector: \u00bbOf course we hope our researchers want to communicate to a wide audience\u00ab","post_excerpt":"Prorector David Dreyer Lassen says science communication is of the utmost importance for UCPH. 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