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Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd lowered his head towards the microscope so he could get a closer look at the mouse\u2019s brain.<\/p>\n

Even before his current office at Panum was set in concrete in the 70s, he has looked at brains in microscopes. The stacks of black boxes on the shelves with slices of sheep and mouse brains attest to that.<\/p>\n

But on this day, almost four years ago, he saw something that he had never seen before. A long brown line. This is surprising, he thought.
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\nWhen he looks at the microscope, it is on slices of the brain. If he had cut exactly along a vein, this would explain the brown line. But his curiosity was aroused. So he examined slices cut from other joints and edges.<\/p>\n

Here he saw the same thing, and this meant that it was not a line, but a plane. Nowadays it is clear to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd that he has found a new cerebral membrane. His life’s greatest discovery has recently been published in the prestigious scientific journal Science.<\/a><\/p>\n

\u00bbEven a 80-year-old can be used for something or other. You are not just old and ready to be discarded with all your interest and experience,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

Like expanding a house with a new storey<\/h2>\n

Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd is at the microscope in the office at Panum and explains what he has found. He swivels the office chair 90 degrees and finds something on his computer.<\/p>\n

You can see he likes communicating. He is employed by the University of Copenhagen as a professor and a part-time lecturer until 2026, when he will become professor emeritus. He conducted exams for medical students before Christmas 2022 and has done teaching right up until now, the last time.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThe young students need some young role models and not an older gentleman like me, shuffling into the auditorium,\u00ab he says.
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\nOn the computer he finds a drawing from one autumn day in 2019 when he was taking care of his three grandchildren. They find him good at drawing, so they often do it together. Everything from Star Wars to alpine landscapes. On this day, the oldest one thought that it should be a free drawing session. Pencils and paper were scattered across the table. Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd reckoned that as he could now draw whatever he wanted, he would spend his time getting an overview of what he knew about the new cerebral membrane that he had seen for the first time in the microscope a few months earlier.<\/p>\n

He drew the three, already familiar, brain membranes with blue, yellow and red. The new cerebral membrane he drew in with a green pencil in between two of the already known brain membranes within a space that was also already established.
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\n\u00bbWhat is this supposed to be, granddad?\u00ab the children asked.<\/p>\n

He compared it to a house. The new cerebral membrane is the separation between the storeys, set up in the high-ceiling living room, so there is now an extra floor. The blood vessels run down on the ground floor. But he could not yet explain what the newly discovered storey was used for.<\/p>\n

He still can’t. But at night, when you sleep, the brain is flushed with brain fluid by means of vessels that run through this space. Waste products that you can see as an accumulation when the dementia disease Alzheimers is present, are flushed away. That is why his find may be important for the study of Alzheimer’s disease.<\/p>\n

Grandchildren heard it first<\/h2>\n

When he drew the brain membrane with his children, it was the first time he had told anyone about what he had found.<\/p>\n

After he got his article in Science, in threads of comments on the internat chat forums for the initiated, he met colleagues who believe that the fourth cerebral membrane is probably just a sub-section of the other membrane. But here the drawing that he made almost four years ago is important documentation.<\/p>\n

\u00bbI understand why they are jealous. It was a real stroke of luck,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n

\u00bbWell, there was probably a bit of understanding involved.\u00ab<\/p>\n

Danish media released the news at the beginning of January with the headline:<\/p>\n

\u00bbTextbooks to be rewritten after new find of extra brain membrane.\u00ab<\/p>\n

But this will not happen immediately, according to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n

\u00bbNothing is true In science. Truth is just what most people believe in at a given point in time.\u00ab<\/p>\n

It is not enough, in other words, for him to have found the cerebral membrane in his microscope. Those who are not yet convinced have to have see the membrane in theirs. Research takes time, so it may take a year before the textbooks are rewritten, according to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n

Membrane was torn<\/h2>\n

One of the scientists who is not completely convinced is Carsten Bjarkam, a professor and chief physician at the Department of Clinical Medicine at Aalborg University Hospital.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThe discovery is interesting, but I do not believe that we yet have solid documentation for the fact that it is an independent cerebral membrane. The researchers have found that part of the brain that we normally perceive to be an independent structure is more complex, and that the innermost part has lymph vessel-properties. This is completely new and changes our understanding,\u00ab he says to Videnskab.dk.<\/a><\/p>\n

While his colleague in Aalborg will not reject<\/em> the fourth cerebral membrane, Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd is completely confident in the theory. He apologises, as he is \u00bbmore humble usually,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

\u00bbI understand that they are sceptical. I’ve been looking at brains for 50 years myself, and I haven’t seen the membrane.\u00ab
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\nThe reason no one else sees what Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd sees is that neuroscientists usually cut their way in through the skull. When you do this, the most superficial brain membranes tend to follow. Then the newly found cerebral membrane follows, and it is torn apart because it is very thin \u2013 12 \u03bcm to be exact, twelve times one thousandth of a millimetre.<\/p>\n

Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd was actually investigating the lymph vessels. To not cut through the outside membranes, he had started putting the whole skull into a decalcifying solution for a month. Then the softened skull could be removed without the outer cerebral membranes breaking. He could suddenly see the fourth one.<\/p>\n

The method cannot be used on human brains. But he has demonstrated that there is also a fourth cerebral membrane in humans by finding the same substances that are found in the mouse’s fourth cerebral membrane.<\/p>\n

Rector on a mission<\/h2>\n

You don\u2019t get the impression from talking to Kjeld M\u00f8llgaard how big he actually thinks his find is.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIf you get an article in Science as a 80-year-old, it must be pretty good,\u00ab he just says. Shrugs and smiles.<\/p>\n

Before the discovery of the cerebral membrane, he had a long career in both science and on the university senior management team. He has been dean and rector. \u00bbAll this necessary administrative work,\u00ab he calls it.<\/p>\n

\u00bbBut doing research is the most fun,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

He ran for the office of Rector on a campaign platform of more interdisciplinarity between the faculties.<\/p>\n

\u00bbI always compared our university with a Greek temple with different pillars, or faculties. But the load-bearing element is the cross-disciplinary support above the pillars that carries the whole of the temple’s roof.\u00ab<\/p>\n

You needed the support, he thought. And it was built under his leadership. It is a bit further down the Tagensvej main road: It is called the BRIC building or Biotech Research & Innovation Centre.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIt was very important for me to set up a place where both medical and natural science research, cancer research, but also legal and ethical aspects could meet,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n

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About<\/p>\n

Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd<\/strong><\/p>\n

Born 1942<\/p>\n

Professor of neuroanatomy and external associate professor at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n

5 January 2023, he got an article in the prestigious scientific journal Science about his discovery of a new cerebral membrane.<\/p>\n

Rector of the University of Copenhagen 1994-2002.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Story of a life<\/h2>\n

It is no coincidence that it was precisely BRIC that became the symbol of Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd’s time as rector.<\/p>\n

\u00bbInterdisciplinarity is my life story in a way,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

As a child, when Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd’s mates wanted to be firemen, he wanted to be a scientist. He was particularly interested in the brain.<\/p>\n

\u00bbBecause it is the brain that is you,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThe big question is whether the human brain will ever be able to understand the human brain. In other words, can you understand something from the outside, if you only have what is in there?\u00ab he asks and points to his head.<\/p>\n

He ended up as a neuroanatomist \u2013 someone who knows everything about the structure of the brain. As a young man, he was employed at Berkeley University in California. This was one of the first places where they carried out freeze fracturing. This means dividing the brain like when you open a sandwich to see its layers, as Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd puts it.<\/p>\n

\u00bbI was one of the first people in Europe to use this method. So I could contribute with something that no one else could,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

One day, 50 years ago, he was at a large congress where a real hot shot was lecturing hundreds of leading neuroscientists. There was a long round of applause. But in the room, a young Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd sat there with a question to what had just been said about the structure of the membranes. Or rather a correction. He put up his hand.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIf you could just go back to the slide number five, I can show you where the fracture that you are talking about actually is,\u00ab he said.<\/p>\n

One thing you are good at<\/h2>\n

After the lecture, there was a coffee break, and many people wanted to talk to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd because of his correction.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThis turned into my approach. I know all your 540 muscles, 206 bones and the structure of your brain. To get access to the top of the pyramid and the best collaborating partners, you have to be able to do one thing very well.\u00ab<\/p>\n

One of the people who wanted to talk to him was Norman Saunders who worked at University College in London. This is where interdisciplinarity comes into the picture. Unlike Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, he knew what all the small pieces that the brain consists of were actually used for. He was the world’s leading researcher into the function of the brain.
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\nHe and Norman Saunders are still working together. Their research was published in the journal Nature in 1976. It was the biggest thing he had achieved until then.<\/p>\n

Interdisciplinarity has become a cornerstone of his work. This was also the reason why he agreed to collaborate with brain researcher Maiken Nedergaard, who was doing research into the lymph vessels in the brain. And it was then that he, by chance, found the new cerebral membrane and got a scientific article in Science at the age of 80. It’s still fun to do research, he reckons.<\/p>\n

\u00bbYou can’t retire from a passion, and research is mine. No one said to Picasso: Now you are 80 and so you had better stop painting.\u00ab<\/em><\/p>\n

READ ALSO:<\/strong> Younger scientist written out of cerebral membrane discovery<\/a><\/em>
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If he had cut exactly along a vein, this would explain the brown line. But his curiosity was aroused. So he examined slices cut from other joints and edges.<\/p>\n<p>Here he saw the same thing, and this meant that it was not a line, but a plane. Nowadays it is clear to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd that he has found a new cerebral membrane. His life’s greatest discovery has recently been published in the prestigious scientific journal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.science.org\/doi\/10.1126\/science.adc8810\">Science.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbEven a 80-year-old can be used for something or other. You are not just old and ready to be discarded with all your interest and experience,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<h2>Like expanding a house with a new storey<\/h2>\n<p>Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd is at the microscope in the office at Panum and explains what he has found. He swivels the office chair 90 degrees and finds something on his computer.<\/p>\n<p>You can see he likes communicating. He is employed by the University of Copenhagen as a professor and a part-time lecturer until 2026, when he will become professor emeritus. He conducted exams for medical students before Christmas 2022 and has done teaching right up until now, the last time.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe young students need some young role models and not an older gentleman like me, shuffling into the auditorium,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Quote","quote":"I understand why they are jealous.","quotee":"Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, hjerneforsker","style":"extended"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>On the computer he finds a drawing from one autumn day in 2019 when he was taking care of his three grandchildren. They find him good at drawing, so they often do it together. Everything from Star Wars to alpine landscapes. On this day, the oldest one thought that it should be a free drawing session. Pencils and paper were scattered across the table. 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That is why his find may be important for the study of Alzheimer’s disease.<\/p>\n<h2>Grandchildren heard it first<\/h2>\n<p>When he drew the brain membrane with his children, it was the first time he had told anyone about what he had found.<\/p>\n<p>After he got his article in Science, in threads of comments on the internat chat forums for the initiated, he met colleagues who believe that the fourth cerebral membrane is probably just a sub-section of the other membrane. But here the drawing that he made almost four years ago is important documentation.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI understand why they are jealous. It was a real stroke of luck,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWell, there was probably a bit of understanding involved.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Danish media released the news at the beginning of January with the headline:<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbTextbooks to be rewritten after new find of extra brain membrane.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>But this will not happen immediately, according to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbNothing is true In science. Truth is just what most people believe in at a given point in time.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>It is not enough, in other words, for him to have found the cerebral membrane in his microscope. Those who are not yet convinced have to have see the membrane in theirs. Research takes time, so it may take a year before the textbooks are rewritten, according to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n<h2>Membrane was torn<\/h2>\n<p>One of the scientists who is not completely convinced is Carsten Bjarkam, a professor and chief physician at the Department of Clinical Medicine at Aalborg University Hospital.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe discovery is interesting, but I do not believe that we yet have solid documentation for the fact that it is an independent cerebral membrane. The researchers have found that part of the brain that we normally perceive to be an independent structure is more complex, and that the innermost part has lymph vessel-properties. This is completely new and changes our understanding,\u00ab he says to <a href=\"https:\/\/videnskab.dk\/krop-sundhed\/sit-livs-opdagelse-80-aarig-dansk-forsker-goer-uventet-fund-i-menneskehjernen\">Videnskab.dk.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>While his colleague in Aalborg will not <em>reject<\/em> the fourth cerebral membrane, Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd is completely confident in the theory. He apologises, as he is \u00bbmore humble usually,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI understand that they are sceptical. I’ve been looking at brains for 50 years myself, and I haven’t seen the membrane.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":145436,"id":145436,"title":"Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd","filename":"designudennavn.jpg","filesize":105765,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/designudennavn.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/han-gjorde-sin-stoerste-opdagelse-som-80-aarig-en-helt-ny-etage-paa-oeverste-etage\/design-uden-navn-19\/","alt":"","author":"94","description":"","caption":"P\u00e5 Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rds kontor st\u00e5r stakke af sorte kasser med hjerner fra mus og f\u00e5r. N\u00e5r man \u00e5bner kasserne, ligger skiver af hjerner p\u00e5 rad og r\u00e6kke. 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When you open the boxes, slices of brains are stacked in rows. They are what he is looking at in the microscope."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>The reason no one else sees what Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd sees is that neuroscientists usually cut their way in through the skull. When you do this, the most superficial brain membranes tend to follow. Then the newly found cerebral membrane follows, and it is torn apart because it is very thin \u2013 12 \u03bcm to be exact, twelve times one thousandth of a millimetre.<\/p>\n<p>Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd was actually investigating the lymph vessels. To not cut through the outside membranes, he had started putting the whole skull into a decalcifying solution for a month. Then the softened skull could be removed without the outer cerebral membranes breaking. He could suddenly see the fourth one.<\/p>\n<p>The method cannot be used on human brains. But he has demonstrated that there is also a fourth cerebral membrane in humans by finding the same substances that are found in the mouse’s fourth cerebral membrane.<\/p>\n<h2>Rector on a mission<\/h2>\n<p>You don\u2019t get the impression from talking to Kjeld M\u00f8llgaard how big he actually thinks his find is.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIf you get an article in Science as a 80-year-old, it must be pretty good,\u00ab he just says. Shrugs and smiles.<\/p>\n<p>Before the discovery of the cerebral membrane, he had a long career in both science and on the university senior management team. He has been dean and rector. \u00bbAll this necessary administrative work,\u00ab he calls it.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbBut doing research is the most fun,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>He ran for the office of Rector on a campaign platform of more interdisciplinarity between the faculties.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI always compared our university with a Greek temple with different pillars, or faculties. But the load-bearing element is the cross-disciplinary support above the pillars that carries the whole of the temple’s roof.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>You needed the support, he thought. And it was built under his leadership. It is a bit further down the Tagensvej main road: It is called the BRIC building or Biotech Research & Innovation Centre.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt was very important for me to set up a place where both medical and natural science research, cancer research, but also legal and ethical aspects could meet,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n<div class=\"factbox\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"1049\" class=\"alignnone size-narrow wp-image-145435\" src=\"http:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-700x1049.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-700x1049.jpg 700w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-480x719.jpg 480w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-1280x1917.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-768x1150.jpg 768w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-1025x1536.jpg 1025w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-1367x2048.jpg 1367w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-290x434.jpg 290w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-990x1483.jpg 990w, https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/dsc2746-scaled.jpg 1709w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"factbox-header feature-color\">About<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Born 1942<\/p>\n<p>Professor of neuroanatomy and external associate professor at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p>5 January 2023, he got an article in the prestigious scientific journal Science about his discovery of a new cerebral membrane.<\/p>\n<p>Rector of the University of Copenhagen 1994-2002.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2>Story of a life<\/h2>\n<p>It is no coincidence that it was precisely BRIC that became the symbol of Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd’s time as rector.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbInterdisciplinarity is my life story in a way,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>As a child, when Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd’s mates wanted to be firemen, he wanted to be a scientist. He was particularly interested in the brain.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbBecause it is the brain that is you,\u00ab says Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe big question is whether the human brain will ever be able to understand the human brain. In other words, can you understand something from the outside, if you only have what is in there?\u00ab he asks and points to his head.<\/p>\n<p>He ended up as a neuroanatomist \u2013 someone who knows everything about the structure of the brain. As a young man, he was employed at Berkeley University in California. This was one of the first places where they carried out freeze fracturing. This means dividing the brain like when you open a sandwich to see its layers, as Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd puts it.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI was one of the first people in Europe to use this method. So I could contribute with something that no one else could,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>One day, 50 years ago, he was at a large congress where a real hot shot was lecturing hundreds of leading neuroscientists. There was a long round of applause. But in the room, a young Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd sat there with a question to what had just been said about the structure of the membranes. Or rather a correction. He put up his hand.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIf you could just go back to the slide number five, I can show you where the fracture that you are talking about actually is,\u00ab he said.<\/p>\n<h2>One thing you are good at<\/h2>\n<p>After the lecture, there was a coffee break, and many people wanted to talk to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd because of his correction.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThis turned into my approach. I know all your 540 muscles, 206 bones and the structure of your brain. To get access to the top of the pyramid and the best collaborating partners, you have to be able to do one thing very well.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>One of the people who wanted to talk to him was Norman Saunders who worked at University College in London. This is where interdisciplinarity comes into the picture. Unlike Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, he knew what all the small pieces that the brain consists of were actually used for. He was the world’s leading researcher into the function of the brain.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Quote","quote":"No one said to Picasso: Now you are 80 and so you had better stop painting.","quotee":"Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, neuroscientist","style":"extended"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>He and Norman Saunders are still working together. Their research was published in the journal Nature in 1976. It was the biggest thing he had achieved until then.<\/p>\n<p>Interdisciplinarity has become a cornerstone of his work. This was also the reason why he agreed to collaborate with brain researcher Maiken Nedergaard, who was doing research into the lymph vessels in the brain. And it was then that he, by chance, found the new cerebral membrane and got a scientific article in Science at the age of 80. It’s still fun to do research, he reckons.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbYou can’t retire from a passion, and research is mine. No one said to Picasso: <em>Now you are 80 and so you had better stop painting.\u00ab<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/younger-scientist-written-out-of-new-cerebral-membrane-discovery\/\">Younger scientist written out of cerebral membrane discovery<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"ArticleEnd"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Newsletter","lang_select":"en","identifier":"Newsletter","headline":"Get an email with our top stories","button_text":"Sign up here","class":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"OtherStories","headline":"","hand_picked_posts":true,"references":[{"reference":{"ID":145954,"post_author":"94","post_date":"2023-01-27 07:14:40","post_date_gmt":"2023-01-27 06:14:40","post_content":"A debate over the theft of research credit in Denmark has been reawakened. A Brazilian researcher Anna Xavier has told the weekly newspaper <a href=\"https:\/\/www.weekendavisen.dk\/2023-3\/samfund\/hjernen-bag\">Weekendavisen<\/a> that a discovery of a new cerebral membrane was also, actually, her discovery.\r\n\r\nThis was after the 80-year-old star professor in neuroanatomy and former Rector of the University of Copenhagen, Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, had toured the media with headlines about how textbooks had to be rewritten. This also goes for the University Post, that has covered his discovery of a new cerebral membrane. According to Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, no one had seen it before he himself spotted it in his microscope. The results have just been published in the leading journal Science.\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/his-biggest-discovery-came-as-an-80-year-old-a-new-part-of-the-brain\/\">His biggest discovery came as an 80-year-old: A new part of the brain<\/a><\/em>\r\n\r\nBut now the breakthrough has become controversial. He, and the other scientists, should have shared the honour with Anna Xavier. This is according to the assessment of Emeritus Professor Albert Gjedde in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.weekendavisen.dk\/2023-3\/samfund\/hjernen-bag\">Weekendavisen.<\/a> Albert Gjedde has been a long-standing member of the Danish Committee on Research Misconduct, formerly known as the Committee on Scientific Dishonesty, which has assessed and convicted in several research scandals.\r\n<h3>Anna's membrane?<\/h3>\r\nAnna Xavier worked closely together with Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd for several years before the discovery. This led to Anna Xavier submitting an article in 2020 about the discovery of a new structure between some of the already known cerebral membranes to the scientific journal Nature.\r\n\r\n\u00bbA mesothelium divides the subarachnoid space into functional compartments\u00ab, was the title.\r\n\r\nAnna's article was rejected by Nature, however, which did not find the evidence sufficiently substantiated. Anna Xavier shortly afterwards reported herself sick with stress and later went on maternity\/paternity leave.\n<!-- end of module 1 -->\nWhen Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, at the beginning of 2023, brought his discovery of a new cerebral membrane to Science the headline was identical to the one that Anna Xavier had sent to Nature a few years before. In the Science article, Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, research colleague Maiken Nedergaard, and three other young scientists are stated as main authors. Anna Xavier was offered a co-authorship, but was not satisfied with this offer.\r\n\r\n\u00bbTo share authorship with five others, where it looks as if we have contributed equally, does not reflect reality,\u00bb Anna Xavier says to the University Post.\r\n\r\nAccording to her, the research article she sent to Nature was proof that her many years of work had been a large part of the cerebral membrane finding. The three new names that had been written in as authors had only been working on the project for a few months, she says. She therefore rejected being credited on an equal footing with them.\r\n\r\n\u00bbI feel really bad about the outcome, as this is not what I had imagined would happen after having been so committed to the research for several years.\u00ab\r\n\r\nAnna Xavier contacted her trade union DM - the Danish Association of Master's and PhDs,\u00a0 and the University of Copenhagen. But she got the impression that nothing could be done before the articles were published.\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt is a problem that you cannot complain about the process that precedes publication,\u00ab says Anna Xavier.\r\n\r\nShe thinks it testifies to a system that is damaging to scientific progress.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThey should, in particular, safeguard the rights of those who are lower down the hierarchy,\u00ab she says.\r\n<h3>Solution not self-evident<\/h3>\r\nAccording to Associate Dean for Research at the Faculty of Health and Medical Sciences, Mogens Holst Nissen, the current rules and institutions are a good way of safeguarding the legal rights of academic staff in relation to co-authorship. He refers to the option of going to the so-called practice committee, which deals with cases of good scientific practice, and the faculty's \u2018Named Person\u2019, a person designated to be approached on ethical issues.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThis does not mean that there will always be a solution to everyone's satisfaction,\u00ab Mogens Holst Nissen writes to the University Post.\r\n\r\nHe writes that Anna Xavier has been in contact with her \u2018named person\u2019 and has been informed about the option of going to the practice committee.\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt is therefore not correct that the individual researcher is in no man's land and cannot do something before the article has been published,\u00ab says Mogens Holst Nissen.\r\n\r\nThe faculty has attempted to facilitate dialogue between the researchers in the case of the cerebral membrane. In this case, however, it was not possible to mediate and find a solution, and it was therefore left to the senior author and the head of the centre to find a solution in accordance with the University of Copenhagen regulations.\r\n<h3>Rebellion<\/h3>\r\nAnna Xavier's case is reminiscent of the rebellion of younger scientists in Danish universities over the past year. Under the hashtag #pleasedontstealmywork, more than 100 Danish researchers, especially younger ones, accused older colleagues of taking their ideas and the credit for their work.\r\n\r\nEven though Anna Xavier cannot say directly that her work was stolen, she can see similarities to the #pleasedontstealmywork.\r\n\r\n\u00bbSomeone got an unjustified opportunity to get their name on a major research article,\u00ab she says.\r\n\r\nPhD student Maria Toft, who was at the forefront of the #pleasedontstealmywork campaign, experienced being subjected to research theft during her maternity leave. As a result of this, she has just resigned from her position at the University of Copenhagen.\r\n\r\n<strong>READ ALSO:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/pleasedontstealmywork-new-campaign-to-stop-the-theft-of-research\/\">#Pleasedontstealmywork: New campaign to stop the theft of research<\/a><\/em>\r\n\r\nMaria Toft is shocked, but not surprised, by Anna Xaviers' experience.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThe most sensational thing for me is that management has advised the researchers behind the project on how to respond to journalists' enquiries,\u00ab Maria Toft says with reference to the Danish newspaper Weekendavisen's report. The other researchers on the project got an email from their manager that they should only answer in writing, and that three people from university management would help with the responses,\u00ab writes Weekendavisen.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThis is really scary. But it also indicates that management not only indirectly supports a culture where you steal each other's ideas: They also use their power to cover it up,\u00ab says Maria Toft.\r\n\r\nAssociate dean Mogens Holst Nissen emphasises that academic staff have full freedom of speech, and that management cannot interfere on whether they want to comment or how. He does not know the content of the specific email referred to.\r\n<h3>A more weighty institution<\/h3>\r\nAnna Xavier\u2019s and Maria Toft's experiences are not unique. A completely <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0280018#sec011\">new study titled \u2018The person in power told me to\u2019<\/a> shows that almost one in three Danish PhD students has added a more powerful colleague to the list of authors, even though the colleague was not entitled to be there.\r\n\r\nMogens Holst Nissen believes that the problem is a different one in Anna Xavier's case. But the study is important, and dialogue about co-authorship is needed.\r\n\r\n\u00bbThe study demonstrates the necessity of continuing to work on this. The culture we have needs to contribute to an open research environment that ensures that the people who actually contribute are included as co-authors. At the same time, the study focuses on a complex and competitive research world,\u00ab he writes.\n<!-- end of module 2 -->\nTogether with the association for Danish PhD students PAND (the Phd Association Network of Denmark), Maria Toft has now reached out to Danish politicians with a proposal that the processing of complaints about research theft and discrimination be moved away from universities.\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt has to be an institution with some weight, and that actually has some employment-legal consequences,\u00ab says Maria Toft.\r\n\r\nResearch spokesperson from the leftist Red-Green Alliance Victoria Velasquez has heard her. She calls it \u00bbgrotesque,\u00ab that this takes place in one of Denmark's largest workplaces and says that it \u00bbreveals a huge problem at our universities.\u00ab\r\n\r\nShe intends to put forward a proposal to establish an independent complaints system.\r\n<h3>Like buying a holiday home with your partner<\/h3>\r\nAs a researcher, you can appeal to the Danish Committee on Research Misconduct (DCRM). But Maria Toft believes that there is a need for a body with a shorter processing time, and which not only takes on academic issues, but also discrimination. And which is not \u00bbbogged down in personal relationships\u00ab like the \u2018named person\u2019 scheme.\r\n\r\nProfessor Lise Lotte Gluud has acted as \u2018named person\u2019 and attempted to mediate between Xavier and the other neuroscientists. She thinks it's an important point that a \u2018named person\u2019, of course, has to be impartial. This is not a problem however, she says. At the Faculty of Health and Medical sciences there are two \u2018Named Persons\u2019. If Lise Lotte Gluud is personally involved, her colleague will take care of the case.\r\n\r\nShe does not want to comment on the specific case with Anna Xavier, but says that researchers come to her with disagreements about rights at least once a month. The cases are of different importance however. If there is suspicion of scientific dishonesty, she refers the employee to the practice committee.\r\n\r\nIt irritates her that researchers, in general, are not better at putting down the premises of their collaboration in writing in advance. What happens if someone changes field, takes a leave of absence, becomes ill and so on?\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt does not need to be much more than a few lines in a Word document,\u00ab says Lise Lotte Gluud.\r\n\r\n\u00bbIt's like buying a holiday home with your partner. When you're in love, things go well. But when you fall out, you have the problem.\u00ab\r\n\r\n<em>The University Post has contacted Kjeld M\u00f8llg\u00e5rd, but he has not had the time to comment. He refers to Associate Dean at the Faculty of Health and Medical Sciences, Mogens Holst Nissen.<\/em>\r\n\r\n<em>Minister for Higher Education and Science Christina Egelund was not able to reply to the University Post before deadline. To the <a href=\"https:\/\/videnskab.dk\/kultur-samfund\/forskere-hver-tredje-phd-studerende-bryder-bevidst-regler-for-publicering-tit-under\">news site Videnskab.dk<\/a> she writes that it is worrying that a new study has revealed that so many PhD students feel pressured to write in senior colleagues as authors of their work. She is learning more about the issue and expects that the universities will take it seriously.<\/em>\n<!-- end of module 3 -->\n","post_title":"Younger scientist written out of new cerebral membrane discovery","post_excerpt":"When scientist Anna Xavier went on maternity leave, her research ended up being credited to other scientists. The case is not unique. 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