As a psychology student at the University of Copenhagen, Jonas Sch\u00f8sler gradually became more and more frustrated.<\/p>\n
He didn’t find that he had the opportunity to practise what he was studying, to become a good practicing psychologist. With only five days of counselling training during the course of the bachelor’s programme, there was almost no chance of talking to ordinary people. Only lots of books, and a few fellow students that you could practice on now and again.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThe way I see it, the psychology study programme has not followed the trends. It is one of the few study programmes where we believe that we, for heaven’s sake!, should not talk to a real person until we graduate and have been given the famous title,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n
So he decided to start up his own business. A place where psychology students could test and train their skills as therapists.<\/p>\n
Under the stucco ceiling in a large, airy living room on Vesterbrogade street, 27-year-old Jonas Sch\u00f8sler and 28-year-old Oliver Herlitschek are co-owners of the company Avilius. We speak in hushed voices, because a therapy is in session in the adjacent room. The stucco ceilings are, throughout the 200 m2 luxury flat, painted in subdued colours with matching light, floor-length, curtains. Sky-blue, beige, dusty yellow and doorframes painted in a light sea green.<\/p>\n
The large apartment is a therapy practice with space for four sessions at a time for both individuals, couples and groups. In 2019 it started out as just a good idea and a setting where psychology students could get some practical experience. Now \u2013 just four years later \u2013 it has turned into Avilius. A therapy service that offers conversational therapy from young people to young people.<\/p>\n
Avilius has a few trained psychologists, but the therapists are otherwise just psychology students. They have to, as a minimum, be studying on the 6th semester, and they get supervised twice a month with authorized psychologists. The price, on the other hand, of only DKK 399 a session, is student-friendly, and the therapists are hopefully people that the clients can relate to, explains Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n
As I see it, it can never be dangerous to have a conversation with another young person.<\/p>\n
Oliver Herlitschek<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n
\u00bbWe have so many friends who have been to a psychologist. And they spend half of a DKK 1,250 billable hour explaining what Snapchat is,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThere is often a generational divide. And you don’t have to spend half an hour explaining to your psychologist what Snapchat is. And when you are in the same age group, you can quickly have a deeper conversation because we are in the same place in life. You do not need to explain what it is like to be 22, because your therapist has just been there.\u00ab
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\nWhen Jonas Sch\u00f8sler, who now has a master\u2019s in psychology, and Oliver Herlitschek, who graduated as a designer, started Avilius, it did not go unnoticed. Their new company faced scepticism from the established psychologist community \u2013 including the Danish Psychological Association.<\/p>\nThe criticism included claims that the psychology students did not have the academic skills to assess whether a client suffered from a mental disorder and needed more professional help than what Avilius had to offer.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThat is why the first conversation with us is free. And when someone faces a challenge that we cannot, or should not, get involved with, and there is the need for more professional help \u2013 then we refer them to others,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n
What is wrong with our generation?<\/h3>\n
\u00bbAs I see it, it can never be dangerous to have a conversation with another young person. Especially when it takes place in a professional framework,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n
And everything seems to attest to there being a need for this kind of conversation, according to Oliver Herlitschek. Danish young people are not thriving, according to numerous studies. 34 per cent of young women between 16 and 24 have poor mental health, according to the Danish health authority’s national health profile f<\/a>rom 2021. The same applies to almost 22 per cent of men in the same age group. At the same time, there is a shortage of psychologists throughout the country<\/a>. And even though you, as a young person between the ages of 18 and 24, are entitled to free psychological counselling in Denmark, the waiting time is an average of 26 weeks,<\/a> according to a study from 2022 conducted by the Danish Psychological Association.<\/p>\n
During last year’s Danish general election, all of the political parties in the Danish parliament agreed that the lack of well-being among young people is a serious challenge. But it can be difficult to point to what it is exactly that is making young people unhappy. Even if you’re in the middle of it.<\/p>\n
\u00bbIt is, of course, super complex,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler and takes a deep breath.<\/p>\n
\u00bbBut our experience, based on what we see here in Avilius, is that our generation is to a great extent challenged by an accelerating society. That there is so little that is predictable and for ever,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThe pace is higher than ever before and the expectations on how you should be and act, what you need to think, and what you need to be good at, are shifting more than ever before. It’s really hard to keep up. You have to run today just to stay in the same place,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler. He knows it all too well from his own life.<\/p>\n
\u00bbIt’s as if my relevance is constantly being challenged. I’m constantly afraid of hitting an expiry date.\u00ab<\/p>\n
It’s okay to be seen in our practice, because it’s okay that you are here, and it’s great that you take care of yourself.<\/p>\n
Jonas Sch\u00f8sler<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n
For Jonas Sch\u00f8sler, the concerns can be about what is going on right now, and about constantly keeping up with all the new stuff. What do people not yet know that they need? What are other people inspired by?<\/p>\n
And it helps to have a lot of things happening at the same time. To feel that you’re somehow staying on top of things, Jonas Sch\u00f8sler explains. That you are building your CV or Instagram bio.<\/p>\n
\u00bbIt’s probably just a fear of not being relevant,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThis is also completely insane,\u00ab Oliver Herlitschek interrupts.<\/p>\n
\u00bbJust the fact that we are alive is a miracle. It’s really crazy that I have to find my own angle on this, my own quirk to somehow feel relevant,\u00ab he says.
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\nOliver Herlitschek suddenly lost his mother in 2020. She had a severe headache, and a few days later she died of a brain haemorrhage in the hospital. This really put Oliver Herlitschek\u2019s life into perspective, and he subsequently decided to delete his calendar app and cancel all appointments for the near future.<\/p>\n\u00bbIt’s not because you need to learn something from losing something. But I quickly found out that nothing actually happens when you just pull the plug. The world goes on, the company goes on, and life goes on without a booked calendar,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n
\u00bbI probably have a simpler approach to life today. I’m still trying to find out what’s important to me. But I really believe that it’s also best for our company that we thrive in the way we do things ourselves,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n
\u00bbBut I’m still a bit addicted to going on Linkedin Tuesdays at the peak time between 9 and 10, where I know that there is the most engagement, so everything is all in process.\u00ab
\n<\/p>\nIt needs to be \u2018in\u2019 to be in therapy<\/h3>\n
The purpose of Avilius is not to help everyone. The two young men acknowledge that it is mostly privileged young people who seek out the rooms in Vesterbrogade street, where a low-volume hip hop vibe resounds through the living room, and the apartment’s designer pink bathroom.<\/p>\n
One of the goals, however, is to make therapy \u2018in\u2019 for young people.<\/p>\n
\u00bbIt has to be less stigmatizing to seek out psychological help. It is a conscious choice that Avilius is not yet another place where the first thing you meet is a stock photo of a window with rain in black and white, or a sunrise,\u00ab explains Oliver Herlitschek, when he is asked to take me through Avilius’ completely styled out social media identity and the layout of the practice in Vesterbro.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThat’s why we don’t do anything to hide people who enter the premises as clients. It’s okay to be seen in our practice, because it’s okay that you are here, and it’s great that you take care of yourself.<\/p>\n
I do not want to be responsible for some middle-aged person who has invested in some bad companies, and who now seeks redemption by investing in some therapy.<\/p>\n
Oliver Herlitschek<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n
They therefore open the doors every month to their rooms to give people an insight into various forms of therapy. They have had music therapy, sound baths, art therapy and even therapeutic breathing exercises. They publish podcasts and write blog posts about the classic challenges of their generation. Exam stress, financial stress, heartbreak, climate anxiety, winter blues.<\/p>\n
\u00bbWhen we sit here in these therapy booths, we do not see each other, and we don\u2019t notice that we are talking about problems that are completely identical, because they are about the challenges of our generation in general. I think that we can help normalize the emotions that many of us have by creating a semi-open space through group therapy, events and social media,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.
\n<\/p>\nNo to Dragon\u2019s Den<\/h3>\n
Avilius took a small loss last year. This year, things are looking up a bit. It is operating pretty much at cost, employees get their salary and are paid their preparation time, but the two owners have not yet paid any salaries to themselves. So Jonas Sch\u00f8sler is living off some sessions he does as a psychologist, while Oliver Herlitschek does freelance design work and takes some evening shifts at a friend’s restaurant.<\/p>\n
So much for the suspicion that the two guys had set up a money-maker. Even though their service can not be compared to other private-sector practitioners, their prices are much lower. They have, at the same time \u2013 and unlike the professional psychological counselling offered for free by the state \u2013 no waiting lists.<\/p>\n
\u00bbBut fundamentally, we are, just, a really bad business,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n
\u00bb399 is just too cheap. But is has been our premise from the start that it should be available to as many people as possible. And with the waiting lists we see, there is clearly a need for more supply.\u00ab
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\nOne of the reasons the company\u2019s financial situation looks so flimsy is that Avilius has consistently said no to investors.<\/p>\nSo we won’t see you on the Dragon’s Den TV programme for budding entrepreneurs?<\/em><\/p>\n
\u00bbNo. No reality TV for us. I don\u2019t want to have to be responsible towards some middle-aged man who has invested in some bad companies, and who now seeks redemption by investing in some therapy. We have been offered this many times, but they always wanted it to be their project, and not ours,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n
So to get the company to survive, the two entrepreneurs have instead started up a sister company Blume, which offers therapy to companies.<\/p>\n
\u00bbThere are some completely different budgets out there in the labour market, which means that we can help many more people \u2014 including young people \u2014 without them having to pay the money out of their own pocket. And this fits our vision perfectly,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.
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lot of us are talking about problems that are completely identical because they are about the challenges of our generation in general,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek, who has set up Avilius with his friend Jonas Sch\u00f8sler."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Standfirst","subject":"Startup","text":"In a luxury flat in the hip Vesterbro district of Copenhagen, two young entrepreneurs are offering the kind of therapy that they needed themselves: Where psychology students help other young people, and where it is cool to take care of yourself.","use_post_excerpt":false},{"acf_fc_layout":"Byline","is_author":true,"contributors":false},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>As a psychology student at the University of Copenhagen, Jonas Sch\u00f8sler gradually became more and more frustrated.<\/p>\n<p>He didn’t find that he had the opportunity to practise what he was studying, to become a good practicing psychologist. With only five days of counselling training during the course of the bachelor’s programme, there was almost no chance of talking to ordinary people. Only lots of books, and a few fellow students that you could practice on now and again.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe way I see it, the psychology study programme has not followed the trends. It is one of the few study programmes where we believe that we, for heaven’s sake!, should not talk to a real person until we graduate and have been given the famous title,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n<p>So he decided to start up his own business. A place where psychology students could test and train their skills as therapists.<\/p>\n<h3>Young people to young people<\/h3>\n<p>Under the stucco ceiling in a large, airy living room on Vesterbrogade street, 27-year-old Jonas Sch\u00f8sler and 28-year-old Oliver Herlitschek are co-owners of the company Avilius. We speak in hushed voices, because a therapy is in session in the adjacent room. The stucco ceilings are, throughout the 200 m2 luxury flat, painted in subdued colours with matching light, floor-length, curtains. Sky-blue, beige, dusty yellow and doorframes painted in a light sea green.<\/p>\n<p>The large apartment is a therapy practice with space for four sessions at a time for both individuals, couples and groups. In 2019 it started out as just a good idea and a setting where psychology students could get some practical experience. Now \u2013 just four years later \u2013 it has turned into Avilius. A therapy service that offers conversational therapy from young people to young people.<\/p>\n<p>Avilius has a few trained psychologists, but the therapists are otherwise just psychology students. They have to, as a minimum, be studying on the 6th semester, and they get supervised twice a month with authorized psychologists. The price, on the other hand, of only DKK 399 a session, is student-friendly, and the therapists are hopefully people that the clients can relate to, explains Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As I see it, it can never be dangerous to have a conversation with another young person.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Oliver Herlitschek<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00bbWe have so many friends who have been to a psychologist. And they spend half of a DKK 1,250 billable hour explaining what Snapchat is,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThere is often a generational divide. And you don’t have to spend half an hour explaining to your psychologist what Snapchat is. And when you are in the same age group, you can quickly have a deeper conversation because we are in the same place in life. You do not need to explain what it is like to be 22, because your therapist has just been there.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":147241,"id":147241,"title":"DSC_0290","filename":"dsc_0290.jpg","filesize":1282674,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/to-unge-maend-vil-hjaelpe-deres-kriseramte-generation-med-billig-terapi\/dsc_0290\/","alt":"","author":"97","description":"","caption":"","name":"dsc_0290","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":147232,"date":"2023-02-17 15:18:58","modified":"2023-03-01 11:33:16","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":2048,"height":1365,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-480x320.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":320,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-768x512.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":512,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-1280x853.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":853,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-1536x1024.jpg","1536x1536-width":1536,"1536x1536-height":1024,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290.jpg","2048x2048-width":2048,"2048x2048-height":1365,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-290x193.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":193,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-700x467.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":467,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0290-990x660.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":660}},"style":"extended","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"27-year-old Jonas Sch\u00f8sler has a degree in psychology from the University of Copenhagen, while 28-year-old Oliver Herlitschek has a design degree."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>When Jonas Sch\u00f8sler, who now has a master\u2019s in psychology, and Oliver Herlitschek, who graduated as a designer, started Avilius, it did not go unnoticed. Their new company faced scepticism from the established psychologist community \u2013 including the Danish Psychological Association.<\/p>\n<p>The criticism included claims that the psychology students did not have the academic skills to assess whether a client suffered from a mental disorder and needed more professional help than what Avilius had to offer.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThat is why the first conversation with us is free. And when someone faces a challenge that we cannot, or should not, get involved with, and there is the need for more professional help \u2013 then we refer them to others,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n<h3>What is wrong with our generation?<\/h3>\n<p>\u00bbAs I see it, it can never be dangerous to have a conversation with another young person. Especially when it takes place in a professional framework,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n<p>And everything seems to attest to there being a need for this kind of conversation, according to Oliver Herlitschek. Danish young people are not thriving, according to numerous studies. 34 per cent of young women between 16 and 24 have poor mental health, according to the Danish health authority’s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sst.dk\/da\/sundhedsprofilen\">national health profile f<\/a>rom 2021. The same applies to almost 22 per cent of men in the same age group. At the same time, there is a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dr.dk\/nyheder\/indland\/der-er-mangel-paa-psykologer-over-hele-landet-og-det-kan-isaer-gaa-ud-over-unge\">shortage of psychologists throughout the country<\/a>. And even though you, as a young person between the ages of 18 and 24, are entitled to free psychological counselling in Denmark, the waiting time is an<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dp.dk\/unge-venter-26-uger-paa-at-komme-til-psykolog-uden-egenbetaling\/\"> average of 26 weeks,<\/a> according to a study from 2022 conducted by the Danish Psychological Association.<\/p>\n<p>During last year’s Danish general election, all of the political parties in the Danish parliament agreed that the lack of well-being among young people is a serious challenge. But it can be difficult to point to what it is exactly that is making young people unhappy. Even if you’re in the middle of it.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt is, of course, super complex,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler and takes a deep breath.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbBut our experience, based on what we see here in Avilius, is that our generation is to a great extent challenged by an accelerating society. That there is so little that is predictable and for ever,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe pace is higher than ever before and the expectations on how you should be and act, what you need to think, and what you need to be good at, are shifting more than ever before. It’s really hard to keep up. You have to run today just to stay in the same place,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler. He knows it all too well from his own life.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt’s as if my relevance is constantly being challenged. I’m constantly afraid of hitting an expiry date.\u00ab<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It’s okay to be seen in our practice, because it’s okay that you are here, and it’s great that you take care of yourself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Jonas Sch\u00f8sler<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>For Jonas Sch\u00f8sler, the concerns can be about what is going on right now, and about constantly keeping up with all the new stuff. What do people not yet know that they need? What are other people inspired by?<\/p>\n<p>And it helps to have a lot of things happening at the same time. To feel that you’re somehow staying on top of things, Jonas Sch\u00f8sler explains. That you are building your CV or Instagram bio.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt’s probably just a fear of not being relevant,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThis is also completely insane,\u00ab Oliver Herlitschek interrupts.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbJust the fact that we are alive is a miracle. 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But I quickly found out that nothing actually happens when you just pull the plug,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":147233,"id":147233,"title":"DSC_0270","filename":"dsc_0270.jpg","filesize":1556710,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/to-unge-maend-vil-hjaelpe-deres-kriseramte-generation-med-billig-terapi\/dsc_0270\/","alt":"","author":"97","description":"","caption":"","name":"dsc_0270","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":147232,"date":"2023-02-17 15:18:50","modified":"2023-03-01 11:33:42","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":2048,"height":1365,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-480x320.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":320,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-768x512.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":512,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-1280x853.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":853,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-1536x1024.jpg","1536x1536-width":1536,"1536x1536-height":1024,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270.jpg","2048x2048-width":2048,"2048x2048-height":1365,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-290x193.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":193,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-700x467.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":467,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0270-990x660.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":660}},"style":"extended","text_placement":"metadata-right","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"Avilius has three therapy rooms for individual sessions and a room for group therapy."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<h3>It needs to be \u2018in\u2019 to be in therapy<\/h3>\n<p>The purpose of Avilius is not to help everyone. The two young men acknowledge that it is mostly privileged young people who seek out the rooms in Vesterbrogade street, where a low-volume hip hop vibe resounds through the living room, and the apartment’s designer pink bathroom.<\/p>\n<p>One of the goals, however, is to make therapy \u2018in\u2019 for young people.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt has to be less stigmatizing to seek out psychological help. It is a conscious choice that Avilius is not yet another place where the first thing you meet is a stock photo of a window with rain in black and white, or a sunrise,\u00ab explains Oliver Herlitschek, when he is asked to take me through Avilius’ completely styled out social media identity and the layout of the practice in Vesterbro.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThat’s why we don’t do anything to hide people who enter the premises as clients. It’s okay to be seen in our practice, because it’s okay that you are here, and it’s great that you take care of yourself.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I do not want to be responsible for some middle-aged person who has invested in some bad companies, and who now seeks redemption by investing in some therapy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quotee\">Oliver Herlitschek<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>They therefore open the doors every month to their rooms to give people an insight into various forms of therapy. They have had music therapy, sound baths, art therapy and even therapeutic breathing exercises. They publish podcasts and write blog posts about the classic challenges of their generation. Exam stress, financial stress, heartbreak, climate anxiety, winter blues.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWhen we sit here in these therapy booths, we do not see each other, and we don\u2019t notice that we are talking about problems that are completely identical, because they are about the challenges of our generation in general. I think that we can help normalize the emotions that many of us have by creating a semi-open space through group therapy, events and social media,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":147245,"id":147245,"title":"DSC_0328","filename":"dsc_0328.jpg","filesize":1290218,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/to-unge-maend-vil-hjaelpe-deres-kriseramte-generation-med-billig-terapi\/dsc_0328\/","alt":"","author":"97","description":"","caption":"","name":"dsc_0328","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":147232,"date":"2023-02-17 15:19:01","modified":"2023-03-01 11:33:49","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":1536,"height":2048,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-480x640.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":640,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-768x1024.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":1024,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-1280x1707.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":1707,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-1152x1536.jpg","1536x1536-width":1152,"1536x1536-height":1536,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328.jpg","2048x2048-width":1536,"2048x2048-height":2048,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-290x387.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":387,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-700x933.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":933,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dsc_0328-990x1320.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":1320}},"style":"extended","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"\u00bbOur generation is to a great extent challenged by an accelerating society. That there is so little that is predictable and for ever,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler."},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<h3>No to Dragon\u2019s Den<\/h3>\n<p>Avilius took a small loss last year. This year, things are looking up a bit. It is operating pretty much at cost, employees get their salary and are paid their preparation time, but the two owners have not yet paid any salaries to themselves. So Jonas Sch\u00f8sler is living off some sessions he does as a psychologist, while Oliver Herlitschek does freelance design work and takes some evening shifts at a friend’s restaurant.<\/p>\n<p>So much for the suspicion that the two guys had set up a money-maker. Even though their service can not be compared to other private-sector practitioners, their prices are much lower. They have, at the same time \u2013 and unlike the professional psychological counselling offered for free by the state \u2013 no waiting lists.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbBut fundamentally, we are, just, a really bad business,\u00ab says Jonas Sch\u00f8sler.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bb399 is just too cheap. But is has been our premise from the start that it should be available to as many people as possible. And with the waiting lists we see, there is clearly a need for more supply.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>One of the reasons the company\u2019s financial situation looks so flimsy is that Avilius has consistently said no to investors.<\/p>\n<p><em>So we won’t see you on the Dragon’s Den TV programme for budding entrepreneurs?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbNo. No reality TV for us. I don\u2019t want to have to be responsible towards some middle-aged man who has invested in some bad companies, and who now seeks redemption by investing in some therapy. We have been offered this many times, but they always wanted it to be their project, and not ours,\u00ab says Oliver Herlitschek.<\/p>\n<p>So to get the company to survive, the two entrepreneurs have instead started up a sister company Blume, which offers therapy to companies.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThere are some completely different budgets out there in the labour market, which means that we can help many more people \u2014 including young people \u2014 without them having to pay the money out of their own pocket. 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