
{"id":23734,"date":"2009-12-13T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-12-13T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/?p=23734\/"},"modified":"2017-01-21T06:10:28","modified_gmt":"2017-01-21T06:10:28","slug":"all-my-bets-are-on-a-climate-agreement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/all-my-bets-are-on-a-climate-agreement\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00bbAll my bets are on a climate agreement\u00ab"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00bbTwo degrees Celsius is a compromise, but it is at least a tangible and feasible target, so this is something, but the two degree guardrail is somewhere around or above the tipping point. It is the dividing line between dangerous and catastrophic climate change.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, climate adviser to German chancellor Angela Merkel, was not sugar-coating his message when he spoke at the University of Copenhagen Monday. <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/universitypost.dk\/article\/russian-roulette-odds-if-we-re-lucky\">Read an earlier interview with Hans Joachin Schellnhuber here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In case we were in any doubt, climate change is serious &#8211; catastrophic even. And even the most ambitious feasible political solutions will leave us around the \u2018tipping point\u2019, on the brink of disaster. <\/p>\n<p>The University Post caught up with Hans Joachim Schellnhuber after his talk to hear his take on geo-engineering and the possiblities of a global agreenment:<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/universitypost.dk\/article\/two-degrees-warmer-may-be-past-tipping-point\">Read the article \u2018Two degrees warmer may be past the tipping point\u2019 here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>If we are in such a mess then why not try the cartoonish geo-engineering solutions?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbLet us try to get the agreement first, and if all else fails we can look into geo-engineering. But to suggest tinkering with the atmosphere at this point is simply irresponsible. Actually, it\u2019s cynical, I think,\u00ab he replies.<\/p>\n<h2>All bets on agreement<\/h2>\n<p>He points out that even if Bj\u00f8rn Lomborg\u2019s vision of an armada of ships pumping out clouds of white steam to reflect sunlight worked, it would not do anything about the equally serious problem of the falling PH value of the oceans. <\/p>\n<p><em>Which is worse \u2013 a bad deal or no deal?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI did hear Jim Hansen (James Hansen, NASA, google him &#8211; ed.) say that he hoped the whole thing would fail, and probably a bad deal will be worse than no agreement. But all my bets are on this.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe very worst that could happen would be if the door was slammed on the two degree target in Copenhagen \u2013 and that can happen too,\u00ab he warns. <\/p>\n<h2>Historic compensation<\/h2>\n<p><em>If everything is riding on the agreement in Copenhagen and it is all the fault of the industrialised world, why aim for a global agreement. Can\u2019t the rich countries just make an agreement?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbEven if we reduce emissions almost over night in the rich world, we would still get a temperature rise of three degrees just from the developing world,\u00ab he explains. <\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe industrialized countries cannot solve the problem anymore. That\u2019s the irony of it: We have caused the problem, but we have over-used the atmosphere so much that we cannot get out of the trap anymore alone.\u00ab <\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe, the industrailized world, have used the atmosphere over the last two centuries. Some other countries want to use it in this century. In net terms this means that a lot of money will have to be handed over to the poor countries. In a sense it\u2019s only a historic compensation.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>luci@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Will a watered-down global climate agreement do more harm than good? 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It is the dividing line between dangerous and catastrophic climate change.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, climate adviser to German chancellor Angela Merkel, was not sugar-coating his message when he spoke at the University of Copenhagen Monday. <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/universitypost.dk\/article\/russian-roulette-odds-if-we-re-lucky\">Read an earlier interview with Hans Joachin Schellnhuber here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In case we were in any doubt, climate change is serious &#8211; catastrophic even. And even the most ambitious feasible political solutions will leave us around the \u2018tipping point\u2019, on the brink of disaster. <\/p>\n<p>The University Post caught up with Hans Joachim Schellnhuber after his talk to hear his take on geo-engineering and the possiblities of a global agreenment:<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/universitypost.dk\/article\/two-degrees-warmer-may-be-past-tipping-point\">Read the article \u2018Two degrees warmer may be past the tipping point\u2019 here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>If we are in such a mess then why not try the cartoonish geo-engineering solutions?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbLet us try to get the agreement first, and if all else fails we can look into geo-engineering. But to suggest tinkering with the atmosphere at this point is simply irresponsible. Actually, it\u2019s cynical, I think,\u00ab he replies.<\/p>\n<h2>All bets on agreement<\/h2>\n<p>He points out that even if Bj\u00f8rn Lomborg\u2019s vision of an armada of ships pumping out clouds of white steam to reflect sunlight worked, it would not do anything about the equally serious problem of the falling PH value of the oceans. <\/p>\n<p><em>Which is worse \u2013 a bad deal or no deal?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI did hear Jim Hansen (James Hansen, NASA, google him &#8211; ed.) say that he hoped the whole thing would fail, and probably a bad deal will be worse than no agreement. But all my bets are on this.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe very worst that could happen would be if the door was slammed on the two degree target in Copenhagen \u2013 and that can happen too,\u00ab he warns. <\/p>\n<h2>Historic compensation<\/h2>\n<p><em>If everything is riding on the agreement in Copenhagen and it is all the fault of the industrialised world, why aim for a global agreement. Can\u2019t the rich countries just make an agreement?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbEven if we reduce emissions almost over night in the rich world, we would still get a temperature rise of three degrees just from the developing world,\u00ab he explains. <\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThe industrialized countries cannot solve the problem anymore. That\u2019s the irony of it: We have caused the problem, but we have over-used the atmosphere so much that we cannot get out of the trap anymore alone.\u00ab <\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe, the industrailized world, have used the atmosphere over the last two centuries. Some other countries want to use it in this century. In net terms this means that a lot of money will have to be handed over to the poor countries. In a sense it\u2019s only a historic compensation.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>luci@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"ArticleEnd"},{"acf_fc_layout":"OtherStories","headline":"","hand_picked_posts":false,"references":false,"category":false,"theme":false,"number_of_posts":"4","style":"default"}]},"taxonomyData":{"category":[{"term_id":48,"name":"Politics","slug":"politics","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":48,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":1036,"filter":"raw"}],"post_tag":[],"post_format":[],"expression":[{"term_id":15,"name":"News Article","slug":"news_article","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":15,"taxonomy":"expression","description":"","parent":0,"count":11496,"filter":"raw"}],"translation_priority":[]},"featured_media_url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/DSC_8481a-1280x851.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23734","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=23734"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23734\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":39650,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23734\/revisions\/39650"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/23735"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=23734"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=23734"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=23734"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}