
{"id":3500,"date":"2016-05-24T08:25:36","date_gmt":"2016-05-24T06:25:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/?p=3500\/"},"modified":"2017-01-20T20:42:14","modified_gmt":"2017-01-20T20:42:14","slug":"professor-nostalgia-oh-our-students-used-to-be-so-creative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/professor-nostalgia-oh-our-students-used-to-be-so-creative\/","title":{"rendered":"Professor nostalgia: Oh &#8230; our students used to be so creative!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So this is the question: <em>How have students changed over the last decade?<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>We asked three professors who have been professors at the University of Copenhagen (UCPH) for at least 15 years. And they all, amazingly, came up with more or less the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>And no, it wasn\u2019t the explosive spike in body-tattoos. It wasn&#8217;t the surge of selfie-takers in the hallways. It wasn&#8217;t the Facebook fanatics hiding behind their Mac books during lectures. <\/p>\n<p>It was something more profound.<\/p>\n<h2>Students now: This is settled, this is where we learn<\/h2>\n<p>It is in how the students see and talk about themselves. &#8216;Students&#8217;, the self-motivated, interested, types, have become &#8216;pupils&#8217;. That is, they are less self-motivated, and in need of more structure.<\/p>\n<p>The change in language stems from the consequences imposed by the current education system, according to Per M\u00f8ller, Professor of Sensory Sciences at UCPH. He believes it is all due to higher grade requirements and the need to finish faster.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This shift in language contains an implicit understanding that &#8216;this is structured, this is settled, this is where we learn&#8217;,&#8221; says M\u00f8ller.<\/p>\n<h2>Pupils, not students<\/h2>\n<p>Professor of Rhetoric Christian Kock and Professor of Cell biology and Physiology Berthe Marie Willumsen have also taken note of the way students now view themselves and their studies at the university.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There is a trend for students to refer to themselves as &#8216;pupils&#8217; and to this place (UCPH) as &#8216;The School&#8217;. That their &#8216;homework&#8217; is due. Expressions directly transferred from school,&#8221; says Kock.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It seems to me, there is a higher percentage who struggle more, and who find things difficult. There are more \u2018pupils\u2019 than &#8216;students&#8217;,&#8221; relays Willumsen.<\/p>\n<h2>More than a change in language<\/h2>\n<p>According to M\u00f8ller, the change in semantics means more than just a change of habit. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They\u2019ve been told by the foolish government that if you come here directly after high school, you get to multiply your grades. This means that there are a large number of studies where you need an absurdly high average mark to get in, leaving no room for screw-ups in high school. Everything is focused on structure and performance, so the students act accordingly. The disciplinary ramifications that follow, lead to the students thinking &#8216;this is not a joke&#8217; &#8211; I have to be able to utilize what I learn.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Everything is focused on structure and performance, so the students act accordingly.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u00f8ller understands this pragmatic approach because it\u2019s the natural product of an educational system that puts performance first, but the results can be bothersome.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I get a little tired sometimes, when I\u2019ve just explained something fascinating outside the curriculum, and a student puts his hand up asking &#8216;How is this useable?&#8217;. I\u2019ve been on the radio dozens of times, and when they ask me this sort of question, I think about Jens J\u00f8rgen Thorsen (Danish artist and provocateur) who used to answer it by saying: &#8216;To get more pussy!'&#8221;. <\/p>\n<h2>Less innovation<\/h2>\n<p>Both M\u00f8ller and Koch share the view that the current educational system hinders the student\u2019s ability to explore their field of study creatively, which means less possibility for innovation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have ventured too far into the ditch of concerning ourselves with grade 12s and the speed of completion. All the while there is less innovation, less boldness, fewer misses, but also fewer breakthroughs,&#8221; says Koch.<\/p>\n<p>This leads to less innovative students all around. An educational system focused on sifting students through as fast as possible, rewarding the fastest, leaves little room for taking chances, says Koch.<\/p>\n<h2>Education reform makes things worse<\/h2>\n<p>&#8220;The political system works against this because it adds extra time to the education, which doesn&#8217;t go well with Excel spreadsheets. At the same time, it is discussed how much Denmark needs innovation, and how it should be included in the curriculum. We ponder this, because if innovation is doing something no one has ever done before, how can one teach it? The system we&#8217;ve had the past years works against innovation, but at the same time, it is in high demand by the government,&#8221; says Koch.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The study progress reform totally destroys young people&#8217;s opportunity to be innovative.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u00f8ller agrees that recent education reform initiatives may be hindering creativity and innovation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The study progress reform totally destroys young people&#8217;s opportunity to be innovative. If someone gets a good idea and says &#8216;making a small company out of this might be fun&#8217; &#8211; Forget it. This leaves the student unable to study full time, risking his or her entire education. This is not how you make a creative society,&#8221; explains M\u00f8ller.<\/p>\n<p>universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n<p><em>Do you have a good story? 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And they all, amazingly, came up with more or less the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>And no, it wasn\u2019t the explosive spike in body-tattoos. It wasn&#8217;t the surge of selfie-takers in the hallways. It wasn&#8217;t the Facebook fanatics hiding behind their Mac books during lectures. <\/p>\n<p>It was something more profound.<\/p>\n<h2>Students now: This is settled, this is where we learn<\/h2>\n<p>It is in how the students see and talk about themselves. &#8216;Students&#8217;, the self-motivated, interested, types, have become &#8216;pupils&#8217;. That is, they are less self-motivated, and in need of more structure.<\/p>\n<p>The change in language stems from the consequences imposed by the current education system, according to Per M\u00f8ller, Professor of Sensory Sciences at UCPH. He believes it is all due to higher grade requirements and the need to finish faster.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This shift in language contains an implicit understanding that &#8216;this is structured, this is settled, this is where we learn&#8217;,&#8221; says M\u00f8ller.<\/p>\n<h2>Pupils, not students<\/h2>\n<p>Professor of Rhetoric Christian Kock and Professor of Cell biology and Physiology Berthe Marie Willumsen have also taken note of the way students now view themselves and their studies at the university.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There is a trend for students to refer to themselves as &#8216;pupils&#8217; and to this place (UCPH) as &#8216;The School&#8217;. That their &#8216;homework&#8217; is due. Expressions directly transferred from school,&#8221; says Kock.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It seems to me, there is a higher percentage who struggle more, and who find things difficult. There are more \u2018pupils\u2019 than &#8216;students&#8217;,&#8221; relays Willumsen.<\/p>\n<h2>More than a change in language<\/h2>\n<p>According to M\u00f8ller, the change in semantics means more than just a change of habit. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They\u2019ve been told by the foolish government that if you come here directly after high school, you get to multiply your grades. This means that there are a large number of studies where you need an absurdly high average mark to get in, leaving no room for screw-ups in high school. Everything is focused on structure and performance, so the students act accordingly. The disciplinary ramifications that follow, lead to the students thinking &#8216;this is not a joke&#8217; &#8211; I have to be able to utilize what I learn.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Everything is focused on structure and performance, so the students act accordingly.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u00f8ller understands this pragmatic approach because it\u2019s the natural product of an educational system that puts performance first, but the results can be bothersome.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I get a little tired sometimes, when I\u2019ve just explained something fascinating outside the curriculum, and a student puts his hand up asking &#8216;How is this useable?&#8217;. I\u2019ve been on the radio dozens of times, and when they ask me this sort of question, I think about Jens J\u00f8rgen Thorsen (Danish artist and provocateur) who used to answer it by saying: &#8216;To get more pussy!'&#8221;. <\/p>\n<h2>Less innovation<\/h2>\n<p>Both M\u00f8ller and Koch share the view that the current educational system hinders the student\u2019s ability to explore their field of study creatively, which means less possibility for innovation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have ventured too far into the ditch of concerning ourselves with grade 12s and the speed of completion. All the while there is less innovation, less boldness, fewer misses, but also fewer breakthroughs,&#8221; says Koch.<\/p>\n<p>This leads to less innovative students all around. An educational system focused on sifting students through as fast as possible, rewarding the fastest, leaves little room for taking chances, says Koch.<\/p>\n<h2>Education reform makes things worse<\/h2>\n<p>&#8220;The political system works against this because it adds extra time to the education, which doesn&#8217;t go well with Excel spreadsheets. At the same time, it is discussed how much Denmark needs innovation, and how it should be included in the curriculum. We ponder this, because if innovation is doing something no one has ever done before, how can one teach it? The system we&#8217;ve had the past years works against innovation, but at the same time, it is in high demand by the government,&#8221; says Koch.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The study progress reform totally destroys young people&#8217;s opportunity to be innovative.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>M\u00f8ller agrees that recent education reform initiatives may be hindering creativity and innovation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The study progress reform totally destroys young people&#8217;s opportunity to be innovative. If someone gets a good idea and says &#8216;making a small company out of this might be fun&#8217; &#8211; Forget it. This leaves the student unable to study full time, risking his or her entire education. This is not how you make a creative society,&#8221; explains M\u00f8ller.<\/p>\n<p>universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n<p><em>Do you have a good story? 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