
{"id":5157,"date":"2015-06-28T02:07:10","date_gmt":"2015-06-28T00:07:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/?p=5157\/"},"modified":"2021-06-21T10:53:49","modified_gmt":"2021-06-21T08:53:49","slug":"phds-are-not-aware-of-private-sector-jobs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/phds-are-not-aware-of-private-sector-jobs\/","title":{"rendered":"PhDs are not aware of private sector jobs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u2018Look up from your screen &#8211; your future is outside the university\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>This <em>could<\/em> have been one of the take-home messages to invited PhDs and companies at a seminar \u2018Getting Ready for the Labour Market\u2019 organized by the Graduate School of the Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Copenhagen (UCPH).<\/p>\n<p>According to the seminar\u2019s facilitator, innovation consultant Kirsten Van Dam, many PhDs at university are not yet orienting their time and efforts to where the future jobs <em>are<\/em> on the labour market: The private sector.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Graduate School signaled that the PhD culture up until now, here at the University of Copenhagen and elsewhere, is of prolonging a career in research. There is prestige and status in doing a PHD, and it is not seen as a logical choice to subsequently work in a company,\u201d says Kirsten Van Dam.<\/p>\n<h2>Not enough time to &#8216;leave comfort zone&#8217;<\/h2>\n<p>According to projections by the Scandinavian policy and economics consultancy DAMVAD, the private sector may attract more than 45 per cent of all PhD graduates in 2020, and the private numbers will continue to grow.<\/p>\n<p>But while PhD skills are in demand from the private sector, many PhDs fail to realise their opportunities. PhD students, for example, do not recognize the need for networking outside university.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPhDs are focused on their research, and are living in a bubble of hard work focused on this. While at conferences they only meet like-minded people, \u201c says Kirsten Van Dam. She adds that PhDs do not feel they have a lot of free time to go outside their comfort zones and act in networks outside their specialty.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are just too many PhDs hoping for a university career path within their own research-specialty.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cPhDs hope and maybe assume that they will have a job. But at our seminar &#8211; when one of the speakers asked \u2018how many of you have a job ready outside?\u2019 \u2013 only two answered.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Paradox of the PhD<\/h2>\n<p>One of the speakers at the seminar was Torben Bundgaard Vad, a PhD in political science from UCPH who went on to co-found and direct the consultancy DAMVAD in Sweden.<\/p>\n<p>PhD students should \u201cplan their studies, and plan for what to do afterwards,\u201c Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<p>At the heart of the present PhD system is a paradox, he explains. On the one hand researchers need to go into depth, go abroad, write articles, and do all the things that qualify them for a research career. On the other hand, there are fewer and fewer university research jobs available.<\/p>\n<h2>Afraid of the private sector<\/h2>\n<p>There are just too many PhDs hoping for a university career path within their own research-specialty.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSometimes PhDs are afraid of the private sector labour market. But the skills of PhDs are in demand from companies,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>A survey among Norwegian companies by DAMVAD showed that they appreciated PhDs methodological and analytic ability, their expertise, and their ability to identify and handle complexity.<\/p>\n<p>The non-university labour market\u2019s demand for PhDs will only intensify. This is due to global processes, and to processes specific to Scandinavia and Northern Europe.<br \/>\n<!-- end of module 1 --><br \/>\nOver the last ten years, for example, research-intensive companies and university cities have grouped together, creating pools of research jobs. This is as more and more of the \u2018simpler\u2019 high-skllled jobs are replaced by machines and algorithms.<\/p>\n<p>In the wider Copenhagen area, successful medical industries such as diabetes giant Novo Nordisk thrive on hiring newly-graduated PhDs as a matter of course.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that the medical sector is ahead of the rest of the private sector in this area. And other industry sectors will require the same type of competencies. In the coming years they will also be asking for PhDs,\u201d Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<h2>Wants a &#8216;policy-relevant&#8217; job<\/h2>\n<p>Anders Trolle is a PhD at the Faculty of Social Science at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wonder whether, in a competitive market, and compared to a guy who has worked in a private consultancy for the three years that I worked on my PhD, whether he has the comparative advantage over me,\u201d Anders Trolle says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut the seminar encouraged me and I think that private employers will be hiring more types like me in the future\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>He adds that an employer hiring a PhD is guaranteed the \u201cstate of the art of the knowledge in their field.<\/p>\n<p>As for himself, \u201cthere are advantages to university life, but in the non-university labour market, I would be able to get into a more policy-relevant institution. I really like the idea that your job can be used to inform politicians,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<h2>Valuable to employer<\/h2>\n<p>Asta Breinholt Lund, who is also a social scientist at UCPH, chose to do her PhD after working in a consultancy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis pushed me towards a university career rather than the opposite,\u201d she said, and this has her preferring a career in university right now.<\/p>\n<p>Asta Breinhold Lund: PhDs can offer potential employers good research design and evaluation of interventions (photo: Jana Udovenko)<\/p>\n<p>But if she ends up opting for a life outside university, she is convinced that she and other PhDs will be valuable to employers.<\/p>\n<p>PhDs can offer potential employers skills like \u201chow to make a good research design and how to evaluate whether something, e.g. some sort of intervention, had an effect,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>Universities need to be helping PhDs prepare for outside careers and for more interaction with the world outside.<\/p>\n<p>The workshop on PhDs in the labour market at the Faculty of Social Sciences at the University of Copenhagen was a pilot project, and Kirsten Van Dam hopes for a repeat, and more initiatives, in the future.<\/p>\n<p>At the two-day seminar, social science PhDs worked on cases and presented solutions to the invited companies. The companies found the presentations excellent, says Kirsten Van Dam. But universities and PhDs need to be more aware of the opportunities off campus.<\/p>\n<p>Torben Bundgaard Vad of DAMVAD says that universities need to be helping PhDs prepare for outside careers and for more interaction with the world outside.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that knowing and acting on this is a responsibility that the PhD student has, but it also a responsibility that the university has,\u201d Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<p>But he is concerned about \u201cthe awareness among the PhD students, and whether the university administration is taking this seriously.\u201d<br \/>\n<!-- end of module 2 --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Employers want to hire PhDs with their scientific thinking and experience. 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want to hire PhDs with their scientific thinking and experience. 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There is prestige and status in doing a PHD, and it is not seen as a logical choice to subsequently work in a company,\u201d says Kirsten Van Dam.<\/p>\n<h2>Not enough time to &#8216;leave comfort zone&#8217;<\/h2>\n<p>According to projections by the Scandinavian policy and economics consultancy DAMVAD, the private sector may attract more than 45 per cent of all PhD graduates in 2020, and the private numbers will continue to grow.<\/p>\n<p>But while PhD skills are in demand from the private sector, many PhDs fail to realise their opportunities. PhD students, for example, do not recognize the need for networking outside university.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPhDs are focused on their research, and are living in a bubble of hard work focused on this. While at conferences they only meet like-minded people, \u201c says Kirsten Van Dam. She adds that PhDs do not feel they have a lot of free time to go outside their comfort zones and act in networks outside their specialty.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are just too many PhDs hoping for a university career path within their own research-specialty.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cPhDs hope and maybe assume that they will have a job. But at our seminar &#8211; when one of the speakers asked \u2018how many of you have a job ready outside?\u2019 \u2013 only two answered.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Paradox of the PhD<\/h2>\n<p>One of the speakers at the seminar was Torben Bundgaard Vad, a PhD in political science from UCPH who went on to co-found and direct the consultancy DAMVAD in Sweden.<\/p>\n<p>PhD students should \u201cplan their studies, and plan for what to do afterwards,\u201c Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<p>At the heart of the present PhD system is a paradox, he explains. On the one hand researchers need to go into depth, go abroad, write articles, and do all the things that qualify them for a research career. On the other hand, there are fewer and fewer university research jobs available.<\/p>\n<h2>Afraid of the private sector<\/h2>\n<p>There are just too many PhDs hoping for a university career path within their own research-specialty.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSometimes PhDs are afraid of the private sector labour market. But the skills of PhDs are in demand from companies,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>A survey among Norwegian companies by DAMVAD showed that they appreciated PhDs methodological and analytic ability, their expertise, and their ability to identify and handle complexity.<\/p>\n<p>The non-university labour market\u2019s demand for PhDs will only intensify. This is due to global processes, and to processes specific to Scandinavia and Northern Europe.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":121650,"id":121650,"title":"IMG_3808","filename":"img_3808-scaled.jpg","filesize":844698,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/img_3808-scaled.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/phds-are-not-aware-of-private-sector-jobs\/img_3808\/","alt":"","author":"9","description":"","caption":"Social science PhDs Asta Breinholt Lund and Anders Trolle in conversation with the University Post. 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This is as more and more of the \u2018simpler\u2019 high-skllled jobs are replaced by machines and algorithms.<\/p>\n<p>In the wider Copenhagen area, successful medical industries such as diabetes giant Novo Nordisk thrive on hiring newly-graduated PhDs as a matter of course.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that the medical sector is ahead of the rest of the private sector in this area. And other industry sectors will require the same type of competencies. In the coming years they will also be asking for PhDs,\u201d Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<h2>Wants a &#8216;policy-relevant&#8217; job<\/h2>\n<p>Anders Trolle is a PhD at the Faculty of Social Science at the University of Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wonder whether, in a competitive market, and compared to a guy who has worked in a private consultancy for the three years that I worked on my PhD, whether he has the comparative advantage over me,\u201d Anders Trolle says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut the seminar encouraged me and I think that private employers will be hiring more types like me in the future\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>He adds that an employer hiring a PhD is guaranteed the \u201cstate of the art of the knowledge in their field.<\/p>\n<p>As for himself, \u201cthere are advantages to university life, but in the non-university labour market, I would be able to get into a more policy-relevant institution. I really like the idea that your job can be used to inform politicians,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<h2>Valuable to employer<\/h2>\n<p>Asta Breinholt Lund, who is also a social scientist at UCPH, chose to do her PhD after working in a consultancy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis pushed me towards a university career rather than the opposite,\u201d she said, and this has her preferring a career in university right now.<\/p>\n<p>Asta Breinhold Lund: PhDs can offer potential employers good research design and evaluation of interventions (photo: Jana Udovenko)<\/p>\n<p>But if she ends up opting for a life outside university, she is convinced that she and other PhDs will be valuable to employers.<\/p>\n<p>PhDs can offer potential employers skills like \u201chow to make a good research design and how to evaluate whether something, e.g. some sort of intervention, had an effect,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>Universities need to be helping PhDs prepare for outside careers and for more interaction with the world outside.<\/p>\n<p>The workshop on PhDs in the labour market at the Faculty of Social Sciences at the University of Copenhagen was a pilot project, and Kirsten Van Dam hopes for a repeat, and more initiatives, in the future.<\/p>\n<p>At the two-day seminar, social science PhDs worked on cases and presented solutions to the invited companies. The companies found the presentations excellent, says Kirsten Van Dam. But universities and PhDs need to be more aware of the opportunities off campus.<\/p>\n<p>Torben Bundgaard Vad of DAMVAD says that universities need to be helping PhDs prepare for outside careers and for more interaction with the world outside.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that knowing and acting on this is a responsibility that the PhD student has, but it also a responsibility that the university has,\u201d Torben Bundgaard Vad says.<\/p>\n<p>But he is concerned about \u201cthe awareness among the PhD students, and whether the university administration is taking this seriously.\u201d<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"ArticleEnd"},{"acf_fc_layout":"OtherStories","headline":"","hand_picked_posts":false,"references":false,"category":false,"theme":false,"number_of_posts":"4","style":"default"}],"feature_color":"","article_updated":""},"taxonomyData":{"category":[{"term_id":42,"name":"Education","slug":"education","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":42,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":661,"filter":"raw"}],"post_tag":[],"post_format":[],"expression":[{"term_id":15,"name":"News Article","slug":"news_article","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":15,"taxonomy":"expression","description":"","parent":0,"count":11488,"filter":"raw"}],"translation_priority":[]},"featured_media_url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/phdseminarreducedphoto.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5157","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5157"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5157\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":121653,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5157\/revisions\/121653"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/121643"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5157"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5157"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5157"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}