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In her op-ed last week<\/a> calling for a total ban on smoking at the University of Copenhagen, indoors as well as out, law professor Kirsten Ketscher identified the Islands Brygge entrance to S\u00f8nder Campus (South Campus) as one of the smokiest places at the university. To test her claim, University Post sent\u00a0your reporter<\/secret> to Amager on a cold September day to find out what\u2019s what in the smoking debate.<\/p>\n

My first observation: it\u2019s obvious why smokers would choose to huddle around the building\u2019s entrance. In the wind-swept chasm of glass and stone that is Njalsgade and nearby Metro station, the overhang over the main entrance offers basically the only shelter to be had.<\/p>\n

Along the building\u2019s fa\u00e7ade, about 10 metres or so from the revolving door, a phalanx of bins stands at the ready. They\u2019ve been specially designed to accommodate cigarette butts, but, if a smoker wants to practise their habit and stay dry, there are two options: clump under the overhang or get hold of an umbrella.
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\nWhen I show up, there\u2019s only one person standing outside smoking. It\u2019s a university employee. She\u2019s sitting on some wooden pallets a few meters from the entrance, in a spot marked as a \u2018no smoking\u2019 area.<\/p>\n

I ask if anyone ever seems bothered by people standing outside the building and smoking. She laughs and points at herself.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIt\u2019s nice right and clean right now. The groundskeepers were here yesterday to clean up. Normally, it\u2019s a sty. When it rains, it\u2019s even worse.\u00ab<\/p>\n

A quick look down reveals that the paving tiles are indeed free of butts. But upon closer inspection, you can\u2019t miss the thick layer of filters trapped under the galvanised shoe scraper you have to cross over when you enter and exit the building. Clear evidence that lots of cigarettes get smoked here.
\n<\/p>\n

Signs? What signs?<\/h3>\n

The smokers \u2013 men, as well as women \u2013 start appearing in earnest during the breaks between classes. (The relative gender balance confirms the official health statistics. According to Sundhedstyrelsen<\/a>, 17% of Danish women and 15% of Danish men smoke. The number is on the decline, overall.)<\/p>\n

Most of the smokers clump in hyggelige groups of two or three. The favourite place to light up appears to be right outside the door. The smoke there is getting thick. It seems Ketscher was right.<\/p>\n

None of the smokers are willing to have a picture of themselves holding a fag published anywhere. When I introduce myself and try to talk them about smoking, most respond \u201coh, no\u201d reflexively. We strike up a chat anyway.<\/p>\n

One group of three students from the School of Library and Information Science say they\u2019ve never been told that some people are bothered by the smoke when they enter and exit the building. If they\u2019d said something, they\u2019d probably have tried to accommodate them.<\/p>\n

No-one in the group was even aware the area was a no-smoking area. Overlooking no-smoking signs appears to be something the majority of the school\u2019s smokers do. Few say they\u2019ve noticed them, but, once you start seeing them you can\u2019t help but notice that they are everywhere.<\/p>\n

The group also admits that their butts wind up on the ground just as often as they wind up in the bin that\u2019s seven or eight meters away from where they are standing.<\/p>\n

\u00bbLook, the bin\u2019s on fire,\u00ab someone behind us says.<\/p>\n

Sure enough, greyish smoke is billowing out of the big bin to the right of the entrance. Or maybe it\u2019s just a thick cloud of irony: it has an oversized sticker with a cigarette with a red line over it. It turns out someone threw a lit butt into the bin anyway. Now, its contents have begun to smoulder.<\/p>\n

One of the three Library and Information Science students I was talking with before says he\u2019d like to speak up for smoking, but that he wants to remain anonymous.<\/p>\n

\u00bbWe ought to embrace smokers,\u00ab he says. \u00bbWhen you smoke, you talk with the other smokers and get to know them better. You meet people who are studying something different than you are. My programme is pretty small, and smoking serves an important purpose for me.\u00ab<\/p>\n

For the smokers standing outside the buildings of S\u00f8ndre Campus, it would appear that smoking is something of a club.<\/p>\n

The huge cost of smoking<\/h3>\n

Inside, where the air is warm and clear, four female law students are sitting in a group, laptops open. Personally, they say, they don\u2019t find the smokers bothersome. If people want to smoke, they can do it outside.<\/p>\n

But, that\u2019s not the same as saying that the university should tacitly encourage smoking by putting up shelters or windbreaks, one of them says. People\u2019s smoking habits are their own expense, not the school\u2019s.<\/p>\n

In search of someone who can tell me more about just what economic impact smokers have on S\u00f8ndre Campus, I find Stig Freddie Andersen, the campus operations manager.<\/p>\n

Over the phone, Andersen tells me that, in terms of the number of hours his employees use to clean up after smokers, the cost is “considerable\u201d.<\/p>\n

One of the ways he seeks to address the problem is by trying to send signals to smokers about where they can light up.<\/p>\n

\u00bbWe\u2019ve put up some windbreaks to show where the smoking areas are. We try to nudge people into changing their behaviour. We can\u2019t really do much to prevent them from smoking in an outdoor public space, but we can try to show them where we\u2019d like them to do it.\u00ab<\/p>\n

Andersen isn\u2019t pessimistic about the effect such efforts have, but he is realistic.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIt\u2019s no different from the population at large,\u00ab he says. \u00bbThe majority, 75 percent or so, respect the rules. The rest couldn\u2019t care less.\u00ab<\/p>\n

Even so, he says it\u2019s rare anyone \u2013 student, faculty or staff \u2013 complain about second-hand smoke.<\/p>\n

The lack of respect for no-smoking areas appears to be a campus-wide thing. Go out on the rooftop terrace at the Faculty of Law, a quiet little space between two buildings where the staff can sit and relax among rosemary growing in wooden planters, and you can\u2019t help but see the evidence that someone likes to take their smoke break there.<\/p>\n

This, despite a no-smoking sign barking in your face. This sign even adds an argument for its prohibition: smoking between buildings is a fire hazard.<\/p>\n

Mixed messages?<\/h3>\n

The pattern is the same at the \u00a0adjacent building<\/secret>, which houses some of the humanities programmes.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThis is just where you smoke,\u00ab says one male student, also part of a group of three smokers, as he lights up a home-rolled fag. The walls of the courtyard where they are congregated are bare, with a single exception: a no-smoking sign. His description of the room\u2019s function is precise though. The ground is strewn with butts.<\/p>\n

Just a few steps away, there\u2019s a bin with a built-in ashtray, half-filled with butts.<\/p>\n

\u00bbThat\u2019s a pretty mixed-message, isn\u2019t it,\u00ab the guy says, pointing. \u00bbThey give us an ashtray where we can put out our fags when we\u2019re done.\u00ab<\/p>\n

I ask what he thinks about the prospect of a campus-wide ban on smoking.<\/p>\n

\u00bbWe\u2019d probably go someplace else, if that were the case. None of us want to bother anyone.\u00ab<\/p>\n

And what does he think about a full-on no-smoking policy that would ban smoking entirely during teaching hours?<\/em><\/p>\n

\u00bbUnnecessarily authoritarian.\u00ab
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\nBy this point, my jacket has started to stink, but I\u2019ve got one more thing I want to look into.<\/p>\n

Outside the main entrance to the Generation 2 buildings is another smokers\u2019 hotspot. Even on a damp day like today, there\u2019s a crowd of people all with fags between their fingers or up to their lips, standing there. The difference is that the school has painted a dashed line<\/secret> on the tarmac to indicate where smoking is permitted and where it\u2019s haram. Most of the students seem to be staying inside the lines.<\/p>\n

As positive as the might seem, the air is still thick with smoke. Which leads me to wonder, about the effect of lines on the ground on smoke in the air.<\/p>\n

Lucas, who\u2019s studying religion, has been a smoker since primary school. He\u2019s also against a campus-wide smoking ban.<\/p>\n

\u00bbBy the time you get to uni, you\u2019re a grownup. We should be allowed to make an adult decision and live with the consequences. We\u2019re not children that need to learn what\u2019s right and what\u2019s wrong,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n

Besides, he argues, getting a ban to stick would take a lot of effort.<\/p>\n

\u00bbI reckon it would be a long time before a total ban was fully implemented. Look at the ban in primary schools. That\u2019s not very effective either. If you decided today to ban smoking, it\u2019d be at least a year, maybe two, before you saw it have any effect.\u00ab
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\nLucas says that he and his mates smoked on school grounds when he was in primary school, even though it wasn\u2019t allowed.<\/p>\n

But primary school is one thing. Kids have to go to school. You can\u2019t easily go around expelling them for breaking rules. The university, on the other hand, could.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIt would make no sense for the university to throw people out for smoking during the school day. There are huge costs connected with university education. They\u2019d never throw us out for such a minor infraction.\u00ab<\/p>\n

Astrid, who\u2019s also reading religion, says it should be the university\u2019s responsibility to give smokers spaces where they can smoke.<\/p>\n

\u00bbIf you don\u2019t want people to smoke somewhere, then don\u2019t put an ashtray there. I\u2019m not the type of person who flicks my butts to the ground. That\u2019s gross. I stand where the ashtray is.\u00ab<\/p>\n

Things like sheds and windbreaks, she says, can nudge smokers to migrate away from entranceways and other places that non-smokers pass through.<\/p>\n

\u00bbSmokers look for a place they can find shelter. That\u2019s why we\u2019re here right now,\u00ab she says, pointing upwards at the sliver of an overhang that\u2019s providing the smokers below with marginal protection from the rain.<\/p>\n

\u00bbYou do what you can to keep your smoke out of other people\u2019s eyes,\u00ab she says.
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To test her claim, University Post sent\u00a0<secret text=\"your reporter \u2013 a non-smoker\">your reporter<\/secret> to Amager on a cold September day to find out what\u2019s what in the smoking debate.<\/p>\n<p>My first observation: it\u2019s obvious why smokers would choose to huddle around the building\u2019s entrance. In the wind-swept chasm of glass and stone that is Njalsgade and nearby Metro station, the overhang over the main entrance offers basically the only shelter to be had.<\/p>\n<p>Along the building\u2019s fa\u00e7ade, about 10 metres or so from the revolving door, a phalanx of bins stands at the ready. They\u2019ve been specially designed to accommodate cigarette butts, but, if a smoker wants to practise their habit and stay dry, there are two options: clump under the overhang or get hold of an umbrella.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":54922,"id":54922,"title":"hovedindgang KUA","filename":"hovedindgangkua.jpg","filesize":231675,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/hovedindgangkua.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/ryger-paa-kus-nyeste-campus\/hovedindgang-kua\/","alt":"","author":"7","description":"","caption":"Hovedindgangen p\u00e5 Islands Brygge-siden af S\u00f8ndre Campus er det eneste overd\u00e6kkede udend\u00f8rsareal i et stort brolagt og forbl\u00e6st omr\u00e5de. 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It\u2019s easy to see why smokers prefer to congregate here"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>When I show up, there\u2019s only one person standing outside smoking. It\u2019s a university employee. She\u2019s sitting on some wooden pallets a few meters from the entrance, in a spot marked as a \u2018no smoking\u2019 area.<\/p>\n<p>I ask if anyone ever seems bothered by people standing outside the building and smoking. She laughs and points at herself.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s nice right and clean right now. The groundskeepers were here yesterday to clean up. Normally, it\u2019s a sty. When it rains, it\u2019s even worse.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>A quick look down reveals that the paving tiles are indeed free of butts. But upon closer inspection, you can\u2019t miss the thick layer of filters trapped under the galvanised shoe scraper you have to cross over when you enter and exit the building. Clear evidence that lots of cigarettes get smoked here.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":54945,"id":54945,"title":"rist","filename":"rist.jpg","filesize":417741,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/ryger-paa-kus-nyeste-campus\/rist\/","alt":"","author":"7","description":"","caption":"Skodder i efter\u00e5rets farver p\u00e5 S\u00f8ndre Campus.","name":"rist","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":55008,"date":"2017-09-13 12:42:26","modified":"2017-09-14 00:21:37","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":1400,"height":902,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-480x309.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":309,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-768x495.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":495,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-1280x825.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":825,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist.jpg","1536x1536-width":1400,"1536x1536-height":902,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist.jpg","2048x2048-width":1400,"2048x2048-height":902,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-290x187.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":187,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-700x451.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":451,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/rist-990x638.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":638}},"style":"extended","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"Discarded butts add an autumnal hue to the entranceway"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<h3>Signs? What signs?<\/h3>\n<p>The smokers \u2013 men, as well as women \u2013 start appearing in earnest during the breaks between classes. (The relative gender balance confirms the official health statistics. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sst.dk\/da\/nyheder\/2017\/faerre-maend-ryger-kvinder-ryger-videre\">Sundhedstyrelsen<\/a>, 17% of Danish women and 15% of Danish men smoke. The number is on the decline, overall.)<\/p>\n<p>Most of the smokers clump in hyggelige groups of two or three. The favourite place to light up appears to be right outside the door. The smoke there is getting thick. It seems Ketscher was right.<\/p>\n<p>None of the smokers are willing to have a picture of themselves holding a fag published anywhere. When I introduce myself and try to talk them about smoking, most respond \u201coh, no\u201d reflexively. We strike up a chat anyway.<\/p>\n<p>One group of three students from the School of Library and Information Science say they\u2019ve never been told that some people are bothered by the smoke when they enter and exit the building. If they\u2019d said something, they\u2019d probably have tried to accommodate them.<\/p>\n<p>No-one in the group was even aware the area was a no-smoking area. Overlooking no-smoking signs appears to be something the majority of the school\u2019s smokers do. Few say they\u2019ve noticed them, but, once you start seeing them you can\u2019t help but notice that they are everywhere.<\/p>\n<p>The group also admits that their butts wind up on the ground just as often as they wind up in the bin that\u2019s seven or eight meters away from where they are standing.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbLook, the bin\u2019s on fire,\u00ab someone behind us says.<\/p>\n<p>Sure enough, greyish smoke is billowing out of the big bin to the right of the entrance. Or maybe it\u2019s just a thick cloud of irony: it has an oversized sticker with a cigarette with a red line over it. It turns out someone threw a lit butt into the bin anyway. Now, its contents have begun to smoulder.<\/p>\n<p>One of the three Library and Information Science students I was talking with before says he\u2019d like to speak up for smoking, but that he wants to remain anonymous.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe ought to embrace smokers,\u00ab he says. \u00bbWhen you smoke, you talk with the other smokers and get to know them better. You meet people who are studying something different than you are. My programme is pretty small, and smoking serves an important purpose for me.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>For the smokers standing outside the buildings of S\u00f8ndre Campus, it would appear that smoking is something of a club.<\/p>\n<h3>The huge cost of smoking<\/h3>\n<p>Inside, where the air is warm and clear, four female law students are sitting in a group, laptops open. Personally, they say, they don\u2019t find the smokers bothersome. If people want to smoke, they can do it outside.<\/p>\n<p>But, that\u2019s not the same as saying that the university should tacitly encourage smoking by putting up shelters or windbreaks, one of them says. People\u2019s smoking habits are their own expense, not the school\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>In search of someone who can tell me more about just what economic impact smokers have on S\u00f8ndre Campus, I find Stig Freddie Andersen, the campus operations manager.<\/p>\n<p>Over the phone, Andersen tells me that, in terms of the number of hours his employees use to clean up after smokers, the cost is “considerable\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>One of the ways he seeks to address the problem is by trying to send signals to smokers about where they can light up.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019ve put up some windbreaks to show where the smoking areas are. We try to nudge people into changing their behaviour. We can\u2019t really do much to prevent them from smoking in an outdoor public space, but we can try to show them where we\u2019d like them to do it.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Andersen isn\u2019t pessimistic about the effect such efforts have, but he is realistic.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt\u2019s no different from the population at large,\u00ab he says. \u00bbThe majority, 75 percent or so, respect the rules. The rest couldn\u2019t care less.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Even so, he says it\u2019s rare anyone \u2013 student, faculty or staff \u2013 complain about second-hand smoke.<\/p>\n<p>The lack of respect for no-smoking areas appears to be a campus-wide thing. Go out on the rooftop terrace at the Faculty of Law, a quiet little space between two buildings where the staff can sit and relax among rosemary growing in wooden planters, and you can\u2019t help but see the evidence that someone likes to take their smoke break there.<\/p>\n<p>This, despite a no-smoking sign barking in your face. This sign even adds an argument for its prohibition: smoking between buildings is a fire hazard.<\/p>\n<h3>Mixed messages?<\/h3>\n<p>The pattern is the same at the \u00a0<secret text=\"2nd phase of the three, that today make up South Campus.\">adjacent building<\/secret>, which houses some of the humanities programmes.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThis is just where you smoke,\u00ab says one male student, also part of a group of three smokers, as he lights up a home-rolled fag. The walls of the courtyard where they are congregated are bare, with a single exception: a no-smoking sign. His description of the room\u2019s function is precise though. The ground is strewn with butts.<\/p>\n<p>Just a few steps away, there\u2019s a bin with a built-in ashtray, half-filled with butts.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbThat\u2019s a pretty mixed-message, isn\u2019t it,\u00ab the guy says, pointing. \u00bbThey give us an ashtray where we can put out our fags when we\u2019re done.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>I ask what he thinks about the prospect of a campus-wide ban on smoking.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbWe\u2019d probably go someplace else, if that were the case. None of us want to bother anyone.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p><em>And what does he think about a full-on no-smoking policy that would ban smoking entirely during teaching hours?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00bbUnnecessarily authoritarian.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":54948,"id":54948,"title":"KUA_ude","filename":"kuaude.jpg","filesize":275225,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/ryger-paa-kus-nyeste-campus\/kua_ude\/","alt":"","author":"7","description":"","caption":"Rygerfesten er rykket ud i en atriumg\u00e5rd p\u00e5 S\u00f8ndre Campus (ja, der er rygning forbudt).","name":"kua_ude","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":55008,"date":"2017-09-13 12:58:17","modified":"2017-09-14 00:16:31","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":1400,"height":935,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-480x321.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":321,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-768x513.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":513,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-1280x855.jpg","large-width":1280,"large-height":855,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude.jpg","1536x1536-width":1400,"1536x1536-height":935,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude.jpg","2048x2048-width":1400,"2048x2048-height":935,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-290x194.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":194,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-700x468.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":468,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuaude-990x661.jpg","extended-width":990,"extended-height":661}},"style":"full","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"Smoker\u2019s disobedience: smoking is banned in the courtyard of S\u00f8ndre Campus. No, really"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>By this point, my jacket has started to stink, but I\u2019ve got one more thing I want to look into.<\/p>\n<p>Outside the main entrance to the Generation 2 buildings is another smokers\u2019 hotspot. Even on a damp day like today, there\u2019s a crowd of people all with fags between their fingers or up to their lips, standing there. The difference is that the school has painted a <secret url=\"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kuarygerfrizone-290x180.jpg\" text=\"Christoffer Zieler\">dashed line<\/secret> on the tarmac to indicate where smoking is permitted and where it\u2019s haram. Most of the students seem to be staying inside the lines.<\/p>\n<p>As positive as the might seem, the air is still thick with smoke. Which leads me to wonder, about the effect of lines on the ground on smoke in the air.<\/p>\n<p>Lucas, who\u2019s studying religion, has been a smoker since primary school. He\u2019s also against a campus-wide smoking ban.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbBy the time you get to uni, you\u2019re a grownup. We should be allowed to make an adult decision and live with the consequences. We\u2019re not children that need to learn what\u2019s right and what\u2019s wrong,\u00ab he says.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, he argues, getting a ban to stick would take a lot of effort.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbI reckon it would be a long time before a total ban was fully implemented. Look at the ban in primary schools. That\u2019s not very effective either. If you decided today to ban smoking, it\u2019d be at least a year, maybe two, before you saw it have any effect.\u00ab<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Image","image":{"ID":54947,"id":54947,"title":"lucas viser hvor man m\u00e5 ryge","filename":"lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","filesize":135073,"url":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/ryger-paa-kus-nyeste-campus\/lucas-viser-hvor-man-maa-ryge-2\/","alt":"","author":"7","description":"","caption":"Lucas, der studerer religionsvidenskab, ryger p\u00e5 den tilladte side af KU's stiplede r\u00f8ggr\u00e6nse ved S\u00f8ndre Campus.","name":"lucas-viser-hvor-man-maa-ryge-2","status":"inherit","uploaded_to":55008,"date":"2017-09-13 12:56:15","modified":"2017-09-14 00:16:31","menu_order":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","type":"image","subtype":"jpeg","icon":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-includes\/images\/media\/default.png","width":801,"height":1025,"sizes":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-150x150.jpg","thumbnail-width":150,"thumbnail-height":150,"medium":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-480x614.jpg","medium-width":480,"medium-height":614,"medium_large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-768x983.jpg","medium_large-width":768,"medium_large-height":983,"large":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","large-width":801,"large-height":1025,"1536x1536":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","1536x1536-width":801,"1536x1536-height":1025,"2048x2048":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","2048x2048-width":801,"2048x2048-height":1025,"featured-soft":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-290x371.jpg","featured-soft-width":290,"featured-soft-height":371,"featured-hard":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-290x180.jpg","featured-hard-width":290,"featured-hard-height":180,"narrow":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1-700x896.jpg","narrow-width":700,"narrow-height":896,"extended":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/lucasviserhvormanmaaryge-1.jpg","extended-width":801,"extended-height":1025}},"style":"full","text_placement":"metadata-below","image_link_url":"","image_link_title":"","caption_prefix":"","enable_alternative_caption":true,"alternative_caption":"Religion student Lucas and his cigarette are on the right side of the law. But what about the smoke?"},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>Lucas says that he and his mates smoked on school grounds when he was in primary school, even though it wasn\u2019t allowed.<\/p>\n<p>But primary school is one thing. Kids have to go to school. You can\u2019t easily go around expelling them for breaking rules. The university, on the other hand, could.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIt would make no sense for the university to throw people out for smoking during the school day. There are huge costs connected with university education. They\u2019d never throw us out for such a minor infraction.\u00ab<\/p>\n<p>Astrid, who\u2019s also reading religion, says it should be the university\u2019s responsibility to give smokers spaces where they can smoke.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbIf you don\u2019t want people to smoke somewhere, then don\u2019t put an ashtray there. I\u2019m not the type of person who flicks my butts to the ground. That\u2019s gross. 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