{"id":8048,"date":"2014-09-04T10:21:47","date_gmt":"2014-09-04T08:21:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/?p=8048\/"},"modified":"2017-01-20T22:53:16","modified_gmt":"2017-01-20T22:53:16","slug":"are-grades-everything-students-are-certainly-acting-that-way","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/are-grades-everything-students-are-certainly-acting-that-way\/","title":{"rendered":"Are grades everything? Students are certainly acting that way"},"content":{"rendered":"

As university admissions become more competitive, some students say they are applying based on what their grades are, rather than on their personal interests and abilities. <\/p>\n

\u201cI can definitely say as much that International Business (IB) was extremely attractive in my eyes precisely because it was so hard to get a seat. I knew that finance was the way I wanted to go, but I never really considered all the other good undergraduate programs at CBS and UCPH,\u201d states Christian M\u00f8ller, a former International Business student, to the University Post. IB currently requires a grade average, of 12.1, effectively barring entrance to everyone but the perfect.<\/p>\n

He elaborates: \u201cChoosing from the highest averages thereby becomes a shortcut through the myriad of educations, which is extremely confusing when one is only 17-18 years old and does not know at all what they would like to do for the rest of their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n

Need for bragging rights<\/h2>\n

Students with top grades feel pressured to take educations with harder requirements. <\/p>\n

\u201cThere was a guy on our introduction trip who said that his friends had asked him why he didn\u2019t study medicine when he had such a great grade – instead of mathematics,\u201d recounts Ralph M\u00f8ller Trane, a Master\u2019s student at the University of Copenhagen. \u201cBut he wanted to study it, so he stuck with it.\u201d<\/p>\n

Admission into the top education fields not only includes a secure spot in a prestigious program, but bragging rights as well. Some educations are more appreciated than others, defying the logic that a successful education should be based on your interests.<\/p>\n

Obsession<\/h2>\n

Nick Bruun, another student, admitted in an interview that he pushed himself to the limits to get a 12.7. <\/a> The student from Esbjerg explained he\u2019d always been a thorough person, but he sacrificed both sleep and class readings to perfect the big assignments and get top grades.<\/p>\n

A bad grade can act as a permanent black mark on your record. While some are trying to prevent receiving one, others are trying to minimize the effect of the one they already have. <\/p>\n

Anne Sofie Larsson received a 6.7 and spent an extra five years<\/a> taking more classes, getting work experience and volunteering, only to be rejected from the university when applying through quota 2. <\/p>\n

Quotas or not quotas<\/h2>\n

While the university advertises both quota 1 (where grades are the only factor determining admittance) and quota 2 (where, among other things, interviews, work experience and grades determine admittance), many feel there is still too much emphasis on quota 1.<\/p>\n

Another issue is the whole question of grade \u2018average\u2019.<\/p>\n

A former engineering student Henrik Schwarz reckons that “there is too much focus on average grades. For example, I studied with someone that had failed mathematics. I mean, I don\u2019t exactly understand how someone can be admitted into an engineering degree and fail math, but because he had o.k. grades in his other classes, his average was high enough.\u201d<\/p>\n

Politicians disagree over the issue. Research spokesman for the Social Democrats, Jeppe Bruus, believes that the quota 1 system is too narrowly focused <\/a><\/p>\n

The party wants to get rid of quota 1 completely, using the University of Southern Denmark (Syddansk Universitet) as an example of an alternative method. The university set a goal that at least 25 per cent of students are accepted based on interviews and tests by 2017 with the hope that they can accept all students this way in the future.<\/p>\n

Alternatives<\/h2>\n

Venstre, Denmark\u2019s Liberal Party, is the largest party in opposition and believes that the present quota 1 is a good system. <\/p>\n

This is in part because it forces students to keep in mind that they want to enter higher education, preparing themselves better earlier on.<\/p>\n

The question now is whether universities across Denmark will promote alternatives. The discussion is bound to continue.<\/p>\n

universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n

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IB currently requires a grade average, of 12.1, effectively barring entrance to everyone but the perfect.<\/p>\n<p>He elaborates: \u201cChoosing from the highest averages thereby becomes a shortcut through the myriad of educations, which is extremely confusing when one is only 17-18 years old and does not know at all what they would like to do for the rest of their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Need for bragging rights<\/h2>\n<p>Students with top grades feel pressured to take educations with harder requirements. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere was a guy on our introduction trip who said that his friends had asked him why he didn\u2019t study medicine when he had such a great grade – instead of mathematics,\u201d recounts Ralph M\u00f8ller Trane, a Master\u2019s student at the University of Copenhagen. \u201cBut he wanted to study it, so he stuck with it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Admission into the top education fields not only includes a secure spot in a prestigious program, but bragging rights as well. Some educations are more appreciated than others, defying the logic that a successful education should be based on your interests.<\/p>\n<h2>Obsession<\/h2>\n<p>Nick Bruun, another student, admitted in an interview that he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.b.dk\/danmark\/nybagt-student-med-127-i-gennemsnit\" target=\"_blank\">pushed himself to the limits to get a 12.7. <\/a> The student from Esbjerg explained he\u2019d always been a thorough person, but he sacrificed both sleep and class readings to perfect the big assignments and get top grades.<\/p>\n<p>A bad grade can act as a permanent black mark on your record. While some are trying to prevent receiving one, others are trying to minimize the effect of the one they already have. <\/p>\n<p>Anne Sofie Larsson <a href=\"http:\/\/m.bt.dk\/danmark\/anne-knoklede-i-fem-ekstra-aar-for-for-at-komme-ind-paa-droemmestudiet-afvist-igen\" target=\"_blank\">received a 6.7 and spent an extra five years<\/a> taking more classes, getting work experience and volunteering, only to be rejected from the university when applying through quota 2. <\/p>\n<h2>Quotas or not quotas<\/h2>\n<p>While the university advertises both quota 1 (where grades are the only factor determining admittance) and quota 2 (where, among other things, interviews, work experience and grades determine admittance), many feel there is still too much emphasis on quota 1.<\/p>\n<p>Another issue is the whole question of grade \u2018average\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>A former engineering student Henrik Schwarz reckons that “there is too much focus on average grades. For example, I studied with someone that had failed mathematics. I mean, I don\u2019t exactly understand how someone can be admitted into an engineering degree and fail math, but because he had o.k. grades in his other classes, his average was high enough.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Politicians disagree over the issue. Research spokesman for the Social Democrats, Jeppe Bruus, believes that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dr.dk\/Nyheder\/Politik\/2014\/07\/30\/152545.htm%20\" target=\"_blank\">quota 1 system is too narrowly focused <\/a><\/p>\n<p>The party wants to get rid of quota 1 completely, using the University of Southern Denmark (Syddansk Universitet) as an example of an alternative method. The university set a goal that at least 25 per cent of students are accepted based on interviews and tests by 2017 with the hope that they can accept all students this way in the future.<\/p>\n<h2>Alternatives<\/h2>\n<p>Venstre, Denmark\u2019s Liberal Party, is the largest party in opposition and believes that the present quota 1 is a good system. <\/p>\n<p>This is in part because it forces students to keep in mind that they want to enter higher education, preparing themselves better earlier on.<\/p>\n<p>The question now is whether universities across Denmark will promote alternatives. The discussion is bound to continue.<\/p>\n<p>universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n<p><em>Like us on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/UniversityPost\" target=\"_blank\"> Facebook <\/a> for features, guides and tips on upcoming events. 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