
{"id":8075,"date":"2014-09-08T06:50:52","date_gmt":"2014-09-08T04:50:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/?p=8075\/"},"modified":"2017-01-20T22:53:29","modified_gmt":"2017-01-20T22:53:29","slug":"comment-naked-but-private","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniavisen.dk\/en\/comment-naked-but-private\/","title":{"rendered":"Comment: Naked but private"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly before I arrived in Denmark in 2000, one of the famous guards outside the queen\u2019s palace at Amalieborg was fired. You\u2019ve seen these Royal Life Guards on postcards: they\u2019re dressed like the British palace guards, only with dark blue coats instead of red. They have the same tall, black, bearskin hats. It\u2019s no big secret that being in the Royal Life Guards is an excellent path to a powerful future in corporate Denmark.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the guard that was fired was special. She was the first woman to guard the Royal Palace at Amalieborg. There was a lot written about it in the newspapers at the time. Unfortunately, this young lady also had a part-time job. She was a prostitute. She would guard the palace by day and run her business out of the royal barracks in the evening. She found customers via escort ads in the local newspapers.<\/p>\n<p>So the young lady was fired. But she was not fired because she was a prostitute. She was fired because she\u2019d been ordered by her commander to stop moonlighting, and she did not stop. In fact, she\u2019d been asking her soldier colleagues to drive her to her various<br \/>\nnighttime appointments. She was fired for not following orders.<\/p>\n<p>The Danes I talked to didn\u2019t find this case particularly shocking.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s her private time, when she\u2019s not at work,\u201d they told me. \u201cShe can do whatever she wants in her free time.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That was my introduction to the Danish passion for privacy and protecting their private life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The word private, itself, is used a lot. You\u2019ll hear Danes talking about their \u2018private economy\u2019, which means their personal finances. <\/p>\n<p>Two of your colleagues may say that they \u2018know each other privately\u2019, which does not mean they\u2019ve seen each other without underwear. It just means they get together on weekends.<\/p>\n<p>Where this relates to you as a foreigner is when the Danes around you \u2013 your colleagues, your neighbors, the people sitting next to you on the Copenhagen metro &#8211; don\u2019t want to invade your privacy. This is why they\u2019re not talking to you.<\/p>\n<p>Now, let\u2019s say I, as an American, saw an African family move into my apartment building. I would think that was pretty interesting. I\u2019d probably want to chat with them about where in Africa they came from, what they were doing in Denmark. Maybe bring them some American cookies and see if I could get invited to a meal to taste some food from their country.<\/p>\n<p>Many Danes would not chat with the African family at all. This is because they are protecting the African family\u2019s privacy. Perhaps the family doesn\u2019t want to talk. Perhaps they have a secret. In Danish eyes, it can be good manners not to disturb them or ask too many questions.<\/p>\n<p>The African family might, from their perspective, see this as Danish unfriendliness. Danes are cautious about new friendships; they take friendship seriously, seeing it as a lifetime commitment, and don\u2019t want to start anything they can\u2019t finish.<\/p>\n<h2>Why I Google my neighbors<\/h2>\n<p>I do not know most of my neighbors in Denmark. When they move in and out of one of the six apartments in my building, they often don\u2019t say hello when they move in or goodbye when they move out.<\/p>\n<p>I will admit here that I have resorted to Googling my neighbors to find out who they are and why they might be using a chainsaw at 10pm on a Saturday night.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you may see some irony here. You may wonder how people who appear half-nude in daily newspapers keep anything private at all. Well, there are some things that are private in Denmark, and some things that are not.<\/p>\n<p>For example, age. In New York, where I used to live, you didn\u2019t ask women their age. And if you did, you\u2019d probably be lied to. I used to take off five or six years, because everyone would assume I was taking off five or six years. If I told my real age, they would have I was assumed I was five or six years older.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In Denmark, everyone knows your age. It&#8217;s part of your CPR number, which you use for every contact with the government, even checking out library books.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you call to set up an appointment with your doctor, you\u2019ll need to give that number, which includes your birth date. Your age is not private in Denmark. On the other hand, your personal choices are very private.<\/p>\n<p>When I lived in Hong Kong, local Chinese people I had just been introduced to would ask me \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you married? Don\u2019t you want children? You\u2019re getting awfully old.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not the kind of stuff people in Denmark want to discuss with strangers. They also don\u2019t do much office gossip, about who is sleeping with whom, or who is cheating on his or her spouse. That\u2019s considered private.<\/p>\n<p>And some things are private because they are considered embarrassing. Like ambition.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ambition is embarassing in Denmark because it suggests that you want to be better than someone else.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In an egalitarian society, that\u2019s very bad manners. A recent survey showed that 68% of Danes are not interested in being promoted at work. Maybe that\u2019s because, if you get promoted, whatever additional income you get mostly goes to taxes.<\/p>\n<p>But maybe it\u2019s because some Danes were too embarrassed to tell the survey taker that they wanted to get ahead. Ambition is private in Denmark.<\/p>\n<p>Religion is another thing that is very private in Denmark. Even though Denmark is officially a Christian country, and the queen is head of the state church, to be openly Christian and talk about Jesus or being saved is considered bad manners. It will make most Danish people very uncomfortable. Many Danes see religion as sort of a security blanket for backward, uneducated people. This is one of the many reasons Danes have so much trouble understanding their Muslim minority.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of religion, my Danish friends have a lot of contempt for the Bible Belt in the U.S., where people loudly declare their religious fervor and if you\u2019re, say, gay, you\u2019re expected to hide it, keep it to yourself.<\/p>\n<p>In Denmark, if you\u2019re gay, you can tell everybody \u2013 but if you\u2019re religious, particularly deeply religious, you\u2019re expected to hide it, keep it to yourself. That kind of thing is private.<\/p>\n<p><em>This featured comment is an excerpt from Kay Xander Mellish&#8217;s new book: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/How-Live-Denmark-humorous-foreigners-ebook\/dp\/B00LUDOIV8\" target=\"_blank\">How to Live in Denmark: A humorous guide for foreigners and their Danish friends.<\/a> It&#8217;s available on Amazon, for the low-low price of USD 8.88 = DKK 50 (plus value added taxes if purchased in Denmark). You can also buy the book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxo.com\/item\/20587036\" target=\"_blank\">on Saxo.com. <\/a>And on <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/book\/how-to-live-in-denmark\/id906752306\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes store. <\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n<p><em>Like us on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/UniversityPost\" target=\"_blank\"> Facebook <\/a> for features, guides and tips on upcoming events. Follow us on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/UniversityPost\" target=\"_blank\"> Twitter<\/a> for links to other Copenhagen academia news stories.  <a href=\"http:\/\/universitypost.dk\/newsletter\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up for the University Post weekly newsletter here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why your Danish neighbors won\u2019t talk to 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your Danish neighbors won\u2019t talk to you","use_post_excerpt":false},{"acf_fc_layout":"Byline","is_author":false,"contributors":[{"use_registered_user":false,"user":false,"contributor_name":"Kay Xander Mellish","contributor_title":"&nbsp;","contributor_image":false}]},{"acf_fc_layout":"Content","content":"<p>Shortly before I arrived in Denmark in 2000, one of the famous guards outside the queen\u2019s palace at Amalieborg was fired. You\u2019ve seen these Royal Life Guards on postcards: they\u2019re dressed like the British palace guards, only with dark blue coats instead of red. They have the same tall, black, bearskin hats. It\u2019s no big secret that being in the Royal Life Guards is an excellent path to a powerful future in corporate Denmark.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the guard that was fired was special. She was the first woman to guard the Royal Palace at Amalieborg. There was a lot written about it in the newspapers at the time. Unfortunately, this young lady also had a part-time job. She was a prostitute. She would guard the palace by day and run her business out of the royal barracks in the evening. She found customers via escort ads in the local newspapers.<\/p>\n<p>So the young lady was fired. But she was not fired because she was a prostitute. She was fired because she\u2019d been ordered by her commander to stop moonlighting, and she did not stop. In fact, she\u2019d been asking her soldier colleagues to drive her to her various<br \/>\nnighttime appointments. She was fired for not following orders.<\/p>\n<p>The Danes I talked to didn\u2019t find this case particularly shocking.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s her private time, when she\u2019s not at work,\u201d they told me. \u201cShe can do whatever she wants in her free time.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That was my introduction to the Danish passion for privacy and protecting their private life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The word private, itself, is used a lot. You\u2019ll hear Danes talking about their \u2018private economy\u2019, which means their personal finances. <\/p>\n<p>Two of your colleagues may say that they \u2018know each other privately\u2019, which does not mean they\u2019ve seen each other without underwear. It just means they get together on weekends.<\/p>\n<p>Where this relates to you as a foreigner is when the Danes around you \u2013 your colleagues, your neighbors, the people sitting next to you on the Copenhagen metro &#8211; don\u2019t want to invade your privacy. This is why they\u2019re not talking to you.<\/p>\n<p>Now, let\u2019s say I, as an American, saw an African family move into my apartment building. I would think that was pretty interesting. I\u2019d probably want to chat with them about where in Africa they came from, what they were doing in Denmark. Maybe bring them some American cookies and see if I could get invited to a meal to taste some food from their country.<\/p>\n<p>Many Danes would not chat with the African family at all. This is because they are protecting the African family\u2019s privacy. Perhaps the family doesn\u2019t want to talk. Perhaps they have a secret. In Danish eyes, it can be good manners not to disturb them or ask too many questions.<\/p>\n<p>The African family might, from their perspective, see this as Danish unfriendliness. Danes are cautious about new friendships; they take friendship seriously, seeing it as a lifetime commitment, and don\u2019t want to start anything they can\u2019t finish.<\/p>\n<h2>Why I Google my neighbors<\/h2>\n<p>I do not know most of my neighbors in Denmark. When they move in and out of one of the six apartments in my building, they often don\u2019t say hello when they move in or goodbye when they move out.<\/p>\n<p>I will admit here that I have resorted to Googling my neighbors to find out who they are and why they might be using a chainsaw at 10pm on a Saturday night.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you may see some irony here. You may wonder how people who appear half-nude in daily newspapers keep anything private at all. Well, there are some things that are private in Denmark, and some things that are not.<\/p>\n<p>For example, age. In New York, where I used to live, you didn\u2019t ask women their age. And if you did, you\u2019d probably be lied to. I used to take off five or six years, because everyone would assume I was taking off five or six years. If I told my real age, they would have I was assumed I was five or six years older.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In Denmark, everyone knows your age. It&#8217;s part of your CPR number, which you use for every contact with the government, even checking out library books.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you call to set up an appointment with your doctor, you\u2019ll need to give that number, which includes your birth date. Your age is not private in Denmark. On the other hand, your personal choices are very private.<\/p>\n<p>When I lived in Hong Kong, local Chinese people I had just been introduced to would ask me \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you married? Don\u2019t you want children? You\u2019re getting awfully old.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not the kind of stuff people in Denmark want to discuss with strangers. They also don\u2019t do much office gossip, about who is sleeping with whom, or who is cheating on his or her spouse. That\u2019s considered private.<\/p>\n<p>And some things are private because they are considered embarrassing. Like ambition.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ambition is embarassing in Denmark because it suggests that you want to be better than someone else.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In an egalitarian society, that\u2019s very bad manners. A recent survey showed that 68% of Danes are not interested in being promoted at work. Maybe that\u2019s because, if you get promoted, whatever additional income you get mostly goes to taxes.<\/p>\n<p>But maybe it\u2019s because some Danes were too embarrassed to tell the survey taker that they wanted to get ahead. Ambition is private in Denmark.<\/p>\n<p>Religion is another thing that is very private in Denmark. Even though Denmark is officially a Christian country, and the queen is head of the state church, to be openly Christian and talk about Jesus or being saved is considered bad manners. It will make most Danish people very uncomfortable. Many Danes see religion as sort of a security blanket for backward, uneducated people. This is one of the many reasons Danes have so much trouble understanding their Muslim minority.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of religion, my Danish friends have a lot of contempt for the Bible Belt in the U.S., where people loudly declare their religious fervor and if you\u2019re, say, gay, you\u2019re expected to hide it, keep it to yourself.<\/p>\n<p>In Denmark, if you\u2019re gay, you can tell everybody \u2013 but if you\u2019re religious, particularly deeply religious, you\u2019re expected to hide it, keep it to yourself. That kind of thing is private.<\/p>\n<p><em>This featured comment is an excerpt from Kay Xander Mellish&#8217;s new book: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/How-Live-Denmark-humorous-foreigners-ebook\/dp\/B00LUDOIV8\" target=\"_blank\">How to Live in Denmark: A humorous guide for foreigners and their Danish friends.<\/a> It&#8217;s available on Amazon, for the low-low price of USD 8.88 = DKK 50 (plus value added taxes if purchased in Denmark). You can also buy the book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxo.com\/item\/20587036\" target=\"_blank\">on Saxo.com. <\/a>And on <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/book\/how-to-live-in-denmark\/id906752306\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes store. <\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>universitypost@adm.ku.dk<\/p>\n<p><em>Like us on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/UniversityPost\" target=\"_blank\"> Facebook <\/a> for features, guides and tips on upcoming events. 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